Debate: Live at the Bagdad Part II

Oregon Catalyst is live from the Bagdad Theatre in Portland as part of a bloggers conference sponsored by KOIN TV 6. Representing Catalyst tonight is Anthony Brady.

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  • Alan

    Expect surprises!

    Why? Because McCain is more ready than last the last debate which came off of the bailout bungle. Obama is more ready, now that he has seen how McCain acts.

    I predict new hard hitting punch lines on both sides. Obama will not be attacked without response as he did last time.

  • Anthony Brady

    As the debate draws near, my expectations are that McCain will go on the offensive as he has fallen behind in the polls. Obama may continue to try and play it safe and stick to the normal talking points to avoid making any mistakesthat could jeopardize his front-runner status. My hope is that we will hear some memorable lines, which were few and far between in the previous debates. The town-hall setting looks to be to McCain’s advantage, and also has the potential to produce gaffes, as it has in the past.

  • Anthony Brady

    It will be interesting to see how long it takes Obama to try to tie McCain to Bush, which has been his favorite strategy thus far.

  • Anthony Brady

    Free hamburger!!!

  • Anthony Brady

    The audience in the hall have to be quiet, not so here at the Bagdad theater.

  • Anthony Brady

    Sure enough, Obama comes right out with “the failed policies of the last eight years” and says McCain supports them.

  • Anthony Brady

    Obama: “we have to fix the broken systems”. I would love to hear how.

  • Anthony Brady

    We must stabilize home values (my friends)

  • Anthony Brady

    Who would you choose as Treasury Secretary? McCain actually mentioned a few names including Warren Buffet and Meg Whitman, but not Tom Brokaw. Obama agrees that Buffet would be good, then goes back to talking about how bad the economy is.

  • Alan

    Asking who is the pick for Tez. Not legit.

  • Anthony Brady

    How is the bailout going to help normal people? A great question.

  • Anthony Brady

    McCain brings up Obama’s “cronies” from Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. Not a very popular statement in the crowd here.

  • Anthony Brady

    McCain begins on his theme of fighting corruption in Washington once again.

  • Anthony Brady

    Obama attacks deregulation once again, even though President Clinton still supports the deregulation bill he signed, and says the crisis would be worse if it hadn’t passed.

  • Anthony Brady

    Is Obama running against McCain, or President Bush?

  • Anonymous

    Obama led off with the last eight years

  • Anthony Brady

    I am glad to hear both candidates want to change the energy plan. Great idea.

  • Anthony Brady

    McCain highlights his bi-partisan credentials and Obama’s lack of them, and also Obama’s “liberal big-spending Senate Record”, including 3 million dollars on an overhead light for a planetarium in Chicago. Do we really want to spend on things like that?

  • Anthony Brady

    McCain gives some dangerous straight talk: “today’s workers won’t have the same coverage they have had in the past”.

  • Publius

    This debate setting feels unnatural. A round room with red carpet and blue walls?

  • Anthony Brady

    Energy: McCain highlights his all of the above approach, while Obama says we are going to be energy independent in ten years, but doesn’t give us a clue how we will do that.

  • WHoa

    Why ar ethe questiosn so BORING…zzzzzzzz

  • Anthony Brady

    “My friends” (McCain) 3 “Bush” (Obama): 3

  • Anonymous

    “The overhead projector,” hu?

  • Anthony Brady

    McCain gives some straight talk again, saying we may have to ask the American people to cut some spending. Also, attacking earmarks, including Obama’s overhead projecter, again.

  • Anthony Brady

    Obama compliments Bush?!!! “He did some smart things after 9/11″, but then attacks him once again, as ” Bush” pulls ahead of “my friends”.

  • Anonymous

    Obama brings up valid points regarding energy. Also, his peace core ideas seem intelligent.

  • Anonymous

    nailing’ jello to the wall….

    Indeed.

  • Anthony Brady

    Obama does the same thing as Kerry did four years ago and highlights the fact that both he and McCain are rich.

  • Anthony Brady

    Dangerous territory: social security and medicare, the third rail of politcs. We’ll see if anyone has a plan…

    • John

      What’s dangerous about it?

  • Anthony Brady

    …Not from Obama

  • Anthony Brady

    I am kind of liking McCain’s idea to form a commission to fix social security, and have Congress vote up or down on it.

  • Publius

    “I’m not popular with my own party, much less his.”

    That’s just about the funniest presidential quote I’ve ever heard.

  • Anthony Brady

    The crowd doesn’t like Reagan, or McCain saying our best days are in front of us.

    • Anonymous

      Why would a liberal crowd like the success of Reagan or the hope of the future?

  • Anthony Brady

    McCain brings up nuclear power. About time someone brought that up!

  • Anthony Brady

    David: it is dangerous for pols to talk about social security, since benefits need to be cut, and that is not popular.

  • Anthony Brady

    Publius: That is indeed a great quote.

  • Anthony Brady

    Obama wants to help China with it’s energy problems?

  • Anthony Brady

    “my friends” is up 1.

  • Anthony Brady

    It seems Obama wants to talk about how bad things are, while McCain wants to talk about how things will be better.

  • Two-fer

    I just saw McCain walking around behind Obama while he was speaking. He looked like a wandering janitor. You will see that on the late night shows. I see a joke here.

    • Willie

      I actually didn’t notice that. That’s an important policy issue, isn’t it?

      • two-fer

        If McCain is over-caffinated, it matters to me.

  • Anthony Brady

    I like how the people asking the questions in the town hall setting ask questions that are important, which the moderators sometimes fail to do.

    • Publius

      If you think of it, the questions are probably all staged.

  • Anthony Brady

    McCain argues for giving refundable tax credits, rather than Obama’s mandates.

  • Anthony Brady

    “Healthcare is a right for all Americans”. How about ILLEGAL residents of America?

  • Anonymous

    “Health care should be a right.” Obama

    How about computers, cars, housing, education, money, etc?

  • Anthony Brady

    It’s saddening how many people here are not America fans.

  • Anthony Brady

    Obama: “Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11″ Gen. Petraeus and a top Al-Quaeda official: Iraq is the central battle ground of the war on terror”

  • Anthony Brady

    Bush-McCain or McCain-Palin? Someone needs to tell Obama the answer.

  • Anthony Brady

    “We have a moral obligation to help stop genocide” Barack Obama. “I don’t understand why we went into Iraq” Barack Obama. Saddam Hussein killed thousands, probably millions of Iraqi’s barbarically. Is that not genocide?

  • Anthony Brady

    McCain: “We must try to prevent genocide, but we also must understand our limits to beneficially effect the situation”

  • Alan

    What is a “tiller”. Keep cool hand on the tiller?

  • Anthony Brady

    Looks like McCain has the edge so far. He has not gone on the attack as much as I thought yet.

  • Alan

    What is a tiller?

  • Anthony Brady

    “Obama talks loudly…” haha

  • Anthony Brady

    Obama insists on a rebuttal, and overrules Brokaw to get his way.

  • two-fer

    Obama great comeback. The “bomb-bomb Iran” joke is an embarassment to McCain.

    Obama shoots. Scores!

  • Anthony Brady

    McCain once again uses the “I looked into his eyes and saw K-G-B” I good line indeed.

  • Anthony Brady

    Obama basically says he wants to get out of Iraq, while McCain says he wants to stay in as long as we have to. I would like to see a specific plan from them…

  • Anthony Brady

    McCain: “we must provide moral support to countries like Georgia and Ukraine, while using leverage with Russia”

  • Anthony Brady

    Let’s see if they can answer yes or no…

  • Anthony Brady

    Obama can’t, going into political speech, while McCain says “maybe”, and then goes on to explain.

  • Rupert in Springfield

    Wow, Obama just referred to the Russians in Georgia as peacekeepers. I wonder if McCain will call him on it.

    I doubt it, but somehow I feel certain I will hear the phrase “my friends” a zilliion time.

    It would be nice if McCain would grow a pair and just look at Obama with a questioning look and say:

    “Peacekeepers? Did you really just say that? Did you mean to say that or was this another zany thing like you would meet with any foreign leaders with no preconditions, Senator Obama, are you out of your mind?”

    no

    Instead I have a feeling I will hear “my friends”

    • two-fer

      Innocent slip. Cut some slack.

  • Anthony Brady

    “What would you do if you were the Israeli’s?” A good rhetorical question.

  • Anthony Brady

    Everybody wants to negotiate with our enemies. The question is how.

  • Anthony Brady

    Good question: What don’t you know? I don’t think they will answer that…

  • Anthony Brady

    Obama changes the question. McCain answers “What is going to happen”

  • Anthony Brady

    Obama concludes: “the last eight years have been bad”, McCain: “I know how to fight, we must fight for our countries future”

  • Alan

    Tiller? McCain said it again.

    Is it a garden tiller? a cash register tiller?

    WHat the heck is a tiller?

  • Anthony Brady

    Comment time here! I’m betting most will think Obama won…

  • Anthony Brady

    One observer comments that real American people asked about real issues, not just personal attacks etc.

  • Rupert in Springfield

    Ok – Good closing by McCain.

    He had a moment where he could have clinched it with the Obama peacekeepers routine.

    Did McCain win?

    Definitely no.

    Did Obama win?

    Possibly to probably yes.

    Someone needs to grab McCain and tell him some key word:

    “Dude, you are behind, you better get on the ball real quick and realize that the press loved you when you were a “maverick” which means voting against your own party. Now they hate you and unless you get on the ball real quick you are going to be another has been, which is exactly what you looked like tonight.”

    Sorry, that negative, that’s not uplifting, but its the truth.

    How the hell the phrase “Russian peace keepers” was not a Gerald Ford “I will tolerate no Soviet presence in Poland” moment is beyond me.

    Either McCain is an idiot, or I am. Pick one.

  • Anthony Brady

    A tiller: What you use to steer a ship aka steer the country.

  • Reper

    Both were presidential and convincing.

    A good debate for the country.

  • Anthony Brady

    One gentleman pointed out the lack of education questions in this debate. A very good point.

  • Anthony Brady

    Another commentar points out the lack of education.

  • Anthony Brady

    An emotional testimony by an uncle of one of the early casualties of the Iraq war.

  • Anthony Brady

    CBS snap poll shows Obama wins the debate by a snall margin among undecided voters, though that CBS poll has been more favorable to Obama.

  • Anthony Brady

    One commentar is brave enought to call Obama a socialist!

  • Anthony Brady

    Unsurprisingly, most commenters think Obama won, though some don’t seem particularly thrilled with some of his policies and answers.

  • Steve

    Total waste of time debate. As dry and typical as any boring debate I’ve seen.
    Made worse when listening to the partisen talking heads afterwards
    characterizing the debate the way they want us to perceivce it.

    I listened to a few of them on MSNBC, FOX and CNN then turned them OFF.

    What crap.

    I’ll take Palin.

  • Rupert in Springfield

    “And now ABC news take you backstage here at the presidential debates, joining us is Andrea Mitchell… Andrea, what is the report down there at ground zero so to speak”

    “Why thank you Tom, I love your wry tone, it is the perfect counterpoint for my brilliantly white teeth and arid questions”

    chuckle

    “Andrea, always a pleasure, what do you have to report on this exciting and thrilling debate?”

    “Well Tom, for some reason the McCain camp wont give any interviews so in Iieu of that I am going to give my ad hoc impression of the campaign staff reactions…basically all I am hearing is the phrase “Russian Peacekeepers” followed shortly by what sounds like a smacking sound a hand would make when head slapping someone, sounds kind of like slapping a babys bottom after giving birth, except there is this old guy grown after it, kind of like the sounds my father made when he woke up in the morning”

    “Well Andrea, we will take your word for it, and for the rest of our viewers, myself included, what actuaslly does “ad hoc” mean?”

    “God knows Tom, anyway now back to you”

    “And that will close out our debate coverage, we now join some sort of dancing show where you can vote via text messaging with more legitimacy than you will in about a month, bye bye from those of us at ABC news here at the debates in God knows where, goodnight”

    • Nova

      Nice post Rupert. Lol.

      • Rupert in Springfield

        Glad I could give you a chuckle.

        • Phoebe

          A little moire humor is what we need. That is why the Daily Show and Leno are better sources of news than the networks.

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