New Measure 66-67 Tv Ads. Pro and Con.

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  • v person

    The Neo-cons who run this state in the guise of corrupt union leaders are to blame for our current fiscal situation. The great Obama has been under cut by the powerless GOP majority at every turn, its the GOP’s fault.

    Sam Adams was coerced into groomin and molesting a 17 year old school boy who is rumored to be a GOP plant.

    Everyone in the tea party movement is a GOP operative.

    • Rupert in Springfield

      Whoah – I guess someone finally realized the homophoebic comments were getting old.

      Progress!

      • v person

        Yeah…he/she is going to have to work harder on the valley person impersonation thing. Neo cons? Hint. I’ve never used that term. GOP majority? What GOP majority?

        • I Spy

          You sure Rupert isn’t “fake vp”?

          • Anonymous

            I was thinking the same thing.

          • Rupert in Springfield

            Nope, that’s the real me. I always was pretty clear they were dull as hell and indeed that was my reason for supporting them.

            I think anyone reading the endless cracks about thongs would quickly see the dull witted nature of such inanity and possibly consider it in a way they might not have before. Nothing could be more instructive on this issue than people seeing how absurd someone looks making such cracks.

            While I doubt that the comments have had any effect on Dean, and indeed they should not, I think they have had an ancillary effect of maybe making some not wish to be associated with such homophobic idiocy.

            In that view, I think the comments instruct more than they hurt and for that reason I do support them.

        • v person

          I know what sweet nothings I whisper in my boyfriend Ebenezers ear…………….and other parts:)

        • Rupert in Springfield

          >Neo cons? Hint. I’ve never used that term.

          You know, I think that is actually true. I cant remember you ever using the term.

          Neo con is actually something of a joke term among conservatives. It usually indicates someone has a lot of DNC fax machine talking points but not much brain power behind them.

          I never was sure what the term meant to liberals but I think they kind of liked it because somehow the term sounded Nazi like and thus was a backhanded way of applying it.

          • Anonymous

            What are you talking about? The term “neoconservative” has been in usage for decades.

          • Anonymous

            Ah, I see you were probably referring to the abbreviated form, neo-con, in which case I stand corrected.

  • skippy

    The bakery ad was shot in California, right outside of Sacramento, it isn’t even an Oregon business. Actors all. With technology the phony dairy letter and the phony CPA letter and now the ad have been exposed.

    • Rupert in Springfield

      Wow, an ad that used actors and a set.

      Is the rumour true that the Washington Post recalled their entire edition to reset the front page when this story broke?

      • Anonymous

        Well, it sort of begs the question, Rupert, if these folks are so concerned with creating jobs in Oregon why wouldn’t they put their money where their mouths are and hire people in Oregon? Instead they go to California? You really don’t see the irony?

        • Rupert in Springfield

          >Well, it sort of begs the question,

          Actually it would not.

          It might prompt the question, but to beg the question would be an entirely different thing.

          Begging the question means to establish logical fallacy through circular argument generally in answer to a query.

          > Instead they go to California? You really don’t see the irony?

          Oh good lord. Seriously?

          Ok, then how about this –

          They are making a statement about the business unfriendliness of Oregon precisely by filming outside the state.

          You don’t see the irony there? Oregon is so anti business they had to go film out of state.

          • v person

            “Oregon is so anti business they had to go film out of state. ”

            OK, but to California? I thought that was the liberal hell hole? Why didn’t they shoot in Utah or Wyoming?

          • Anonymous

            “Actually it would not. It might prompt the question, but to beg the question would be an entirely different thing.”

            Oh my god, you and your semantic arguments. Thanks for setting me straight. I can see where my use of the word “beg” in place of “prompt” really obscured the intention of my comment. Aristotle would be so ashamed.

            “Oh good lord. Seriously?”

            Yes, seriously.

            “They are making a statement about the business unfriendliness of Oregon precisely by filming outside the state.”

            You have just demonstrated your ignorance of the film and video production industry.

            “Oregon is so anti business they had to go film out of state.”

            Yeah, that’s how a “stop job killing taxes” campaign funded by donations from Oregon taxpayers should justify taking that money out of state. That makes sense. They’re obviously very committed to creating jobs in Oregon. Give it a rest you wannabe philosopher.

          • Rupert in Springfield

            >You have just demonstrated your ignorance of the film and video production industry.

            More like, I am demonstrating that your stretch of an argument could be met by a similar stretch in the other direction. Your dislike of that has no indication of my knowledge of the film and video industry whatsoever.

            Fact is way more filming goes on in California than in Oregon. Most people know that, obviously you don’t

            >Give it a rest you wannabe philosopher.

            Wow, you get pretty cranky when your preposterous reach for irony is met with an equally preposterous reach for irony.

            Get over it, filming in California hardly points out this vast ironic twist you wish it did.

          • Anonymous

            I don’t care what your position on measures 66 and 67, if this particular endeavor doesn’t raise your eyebrows a little your ability to maintain any sense of objectivity is suspect.

            Rupert, I’ve worked in film and television production up and down the west coast for many years. Tax incentives have been driving production away from California for quite some time. Regardless, the point is that there are plenty of out of work technicians in Oregon that I’m sure would have appreciated the jobs that OREGONIANS AGAINST JOB-KILLING TAXES sent to California. Even if they were only for a single day’s pay. If they were indeed attempting to make the statement you suggested, then it failed miserably. No one needs your approval to notice the irony of these circumstances, that hiring people out of state to advertise a campaign whose stated goals are the protection of in-state jobs is contrary to their own mission.

          • OI

            Bullshit. Oregon provides incentives to encourage exactly this kind of activity:

            http://oregonfilm.org/incentives/

  • OI

    If “No” loses, they can blame their crappy ad-men. That television spot is terrible.

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