Lars Larson: U.S. fears Muslims, disinvites religious speaker

What happens when our own government becomes afraid of offending Muslims to the point that they disinvite a major religious figure in our country from speaking at the Pentagon?

This has been something we have all feared for a long time””when Muslims become influential enough in the United States that we would go in almost daily fear of offending them.

Franklin Graham, son of Billy Graham was invited to speak at the Pentagon. After Muslims said that might offend some of them, he was disinvited to speak.

Our country hasn’t been willing to kowtow to any religious group. We didn’t kowtow to Protestants. We didn’t kowtow to Catholics, and we certainly aren’t going to kowtow to Muslims.

We need to tell that them this great country recognizes all faiths. We can’t be told when, and where and how, we can hear from them.

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  • a retired professor

    “We didn’t kowtow to Catholics, and we certainly aren’t going to kowtow to Muslims.”

    But that’s exactly what we ARE doing. We can’t even speak the name of the enemy in the “war” on terrorism. And look at how the military handled that psychiatrist before, during, and after his shootup at the military base.

    And the fact is, Graham has said denigrating things about the Muslim religion. If denigrating a particular religion is grounds for being disinvited, he has provided grounds.

    The truth is, having observant Muslims in the country is probably just asking for trouble. We’re going to have more and more of this as time goes on. A politically correct country hopelessly tying itself in knots over how to deal with a Muslim population that fundamentally holds beliefs and attitudes incompatible with our way of life. We haven’t figured out how to deal with the earlier minorities, who by and large are not hostile to the country as it is (with some major concerns about the Mexicans). With the Muslims, we are completely clueless.

    • valley p

      “The truth is, having observant Muslims in the country is probably just asking for trouble.”

      Its a free country prof. Muslims have as much a right to be here as anyone else. We do not have a state religion. They are all equal under the eyes of the law.

      As far as disinviting Graham, its not about political correctness at all. Its about good sense and helping out our military in the field. When you want to convince 1 billion people you are not hostile to their religion, you don’t have someone who says nasty things about their religion as a guest speaker. Why make more enemies when we already have more than enough? Why risk getting more people killed just to give this guy a public soapbox?

      • a retired professor

        If they’re citizens, they have a right to be here. Otherwise, not. We have the right to decide who comes into the country. Who we want. We don’t have an obligation, for example, to allow people who believe it’s OK to stone homosexuals or to cut off the clitori of little girls.

        We don’t have an obligation to allow in people who are antithetical to our values. As they say, the Constitution is not a suicide pact.

      • Tea’d

        Does that mean you don’t agree with Obama’s treatment of the Jew’s in Israel or is that OK? Does that mean you don’t want to hear speakers talk bad about Christians, or is that OK? Yes, this is a free country BUT…the professor is right…we are so tied into knots about political correctness that our military has to read a terrorist their Miranda rights on the battle field…why don’t you fight for our country and see just how stupid that really is…What about pulling our ballistic interceptors away from Poland, or is that OK?

        Graham is a decent man and you’re telling us that your heart isn’t loving enough to forgive a godly man for an outburst because of the thousands killed on 9-11! Shame on you!

        Besides, its time Americans stood up and said…we don’t really care what the rest of the world thinks of us anyway…We give nations billions of dollars of aid, military protection, food and much more only to be hated by most of those who receive our aid. I say we need to protect our borders from people that want to do us harm and most recently it is muslims…

        • a retired professor

          Well said. I’ll just add this: Graham only made his derogatory remarks about the Islamic religion because of certain, er, recent history. I’m sure he would have been perfectly happy never to mention the subject. But when, for example, certain “clerics” are calling for the destruction of Jews, of America, of Israel, of Christians — when they are speaking from an official religious position — then calling that religion into question becomes perfectly legitimate. Just as calling into question a religion that practices human sacrifice would be legitimate — actually, as Islam does (as currently practiced by a huge proportion of its followers).

          • valley p

            “We have the right to decide who comes into the country. Who we want.”

            Based on their religion? Not a good idea to go down that path.

            “Does that mean you don’t want to hear speakers talk bad about Christians, or is that OK? ”

            I think its a free country, and people are free to say bad things about whomever they want, including Graham. That doesn’t mean you invite people who have a history of saying bad things to speak in a public forum.

            “our military has to read a terrorist their Miranda rights on the battle field.”

            No…actually they don’t. Where did you get that misinformation?

            “why don’t you fight for our country ”

            I’m too old and decrepit. I would just get in the way.

            “Graham is a decent man and you’re telling us that your heart isn’t loving enough to forgive a godly man for an outburst …”

            It doesn’t matter whether I forgive him or not. The question is whether he should be invited to speak to our military in a public forum. If our leaders think that his doing so would further endanger our soldiers, then he shouldn’t be offered that forum. You don’t pour gas on a fire to help fight it. You use water.

            “Besides, its time Americans stood up and said…we don’t really care what the rest of the world thinks of us anyway.”

            We already did that. It was called the Bush-Cheney Administration. Things did not go so well with the rest of the world so we are trying something different.

            “I say we need to protect our borders from people that want to do us harm ”

            It sounds like you think we should withdraw from Iraq and Afghanistan and close down our 130 or so military bases around the world. Is that the case?

            “But when, for example, certain “clerics” are calling for the destruction of Jews, of America, of Israel, of Christians ”

            Then we shouldn’t invite them to speak at the Pentagon either. But you have to realize, individual Muslim Imams do not “speak for” their religion. They speak their own interpretation of that religion. Like individual Christian pastors here. There is no top down hierarchy in the Islamic religion. They don’t have a Pope.

            “a religion that practices human sacrifice would be legitimate — actually, as Islam does ”

            When Japanese Kamikaze pilots flew planes into our ships, were they acting out of religion or patriotism? When we dropped atomic bombs on cities with innocent people in them, were we engaged in acts of war or were we murderers? Some Muslims believe they are at war with us and they are bent on killing us. Sacrificing their bodies is an effective means to an end. Sure, they find religious justification to do so, but we have found religious justification in the past to do some pretty awful things to people. Its a human problem, not a problem tied to any particular faith. We have bigger and better weapons than they do so they use what they have available.

          • a retired professor

            You sound like a good apologist for the Japanese kamikaze pilots and the Islamists. You make the case that there wasn’t much to choose between us and them. Fine, you make your case. I think it’s pretty easy to make up our minds.

          • valley p

            Its easy for both of us to make up our minds which side we are on. But its easier to win if one understands who one is fighting, what they are fighting for, and maybe how to keep others from joiningor supporting their cause. President Obama, secretary of Defense Gates, and Generals Petraeus and McCrystal seem to get this even if you and Mr Graham do not.

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