Ex-White Supremacist story a good response to Charlottesville violence

Responding to Charlottesville shocking car attack with a message from a ex-white supremacist.
By Jason Williams
Taxpayer Association of Oregon

The violence is still fresh and the details are still coming in on Saturdays violence at a White Supremacist rally where a supporter drove a car through a crowd of counter-protesters — a textbook terrorist attack method I might add.   I saw this video  from a Morgan Freeman National Geographic series earlier this year and found it a fitting response.   

Too often White Supremacists live in a perverted bubble where they feed off public attacks.   The video shows this exact point as ex-white supremacist Brian Wydner explains that in getting a Nazi tattoo brought him attention and fights — which is, as sick as it sounds, exactly what he wanted.    This is why we need to fight extremism and supremacistism in more ways than one.   Highlighting an ex-white supremacist is one of the bigger insults you can deliver and it is a chance to try to change their minds and pull people out.   The video is surprising on how difficult it was for Brian Wydner to leave once he changed his mind — it almost cost him his life.

The media reports that there were 15 people injured due to fighting at the Charlottesville event even before the car attack happened (read report here).   My thoughts and prayers to the victims.

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  • GQ4U

    This was not a White Supremacist rally any more than it was a BLM or Antifa rally. This was a rally to protest and hopefully prevent the removal of a statue of Robert E. Lee which is protected by US Code. Several racist groups attended the rally and usurped the core objective. Violence among these usurpers does not give the press the right to usurp the reason for the rally… preservation of historic monuments.

    • SocraticMeathead

      GQ4U your attempt to whitewash this event can’t withstand a simple google search, or the hubris of the organizer who proudly admits his goal is to unite the alt-right and white nationalists/racists.
      Here is an excerpt based on statements made BEFORE the event.

      “Ostensibly, the reason for Saturday’s rally was to protest a decision by Charlottesville to remove a statue of Robert E. Lee from the park that until recently bore his name. But, in recent interviews, Heimbach acknowledged that the event was equally about bringing together members of the extreme right, who have been prone to splintering but found a rallying cry in Charlottesville.

      “The biggest thing is a show of strength,” he said ahead of the rally. “To show that our organizations that have been divided on class, been divided on religious issues, divided on ideological grounds, can put 14 words — ‘We must secure the existence of our people and the future for white children’ — as our primary motivating factor.”

      Heimbach, like many of those rallying alongside him Saturday, sees white identity, culture and religion as increasingly endangered by a diversifying America. He sees America as a failure and says his ultimate goal is to see it carved into ethno-states, with parts set aside for whites, parts for blacks, parts for Hispanics and so on. Such a future is desirable, he and others say, because they fear a white genocide is imminent and they point to the erasure of white history in the removal of Lee’s statue as evidence.

      Such views were evident Friday night when more than 200 white nationalists lit tiki torches and marched through the heart of the University of Virginia’s campus. Among their chants was: “You will not replace us.” That sentiment certainly had echoes in the planned removal of the Lee statue, but among Heimbach’s peers, it’s more personal.

      “I don’t want to fast forward 40 years and look my grandchildren in the eyes and have them say, ‘Why didn’t you do anything to stop this?’ ” he said recently.

      link: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/08/12/meet-man-middle-unite-right-rally-charlottesville/562571001/

      • GQ4U

        USA TODAY!!! Really??? Liberal rag of lies.

        No white wash here. I simply told the truth and you chose to believe the MSM white supremacist spin. This was a cash of several hate groups, all of them fascists, the supremacists, Antifa & BLM and various communist organizations and none of them are connected to conservatives or Donald Trump.

        The rally was supposed to be to preserve a statue of the honorable General Robert E. Lee.

        If you want to tell your grand kids anything 40 years from now you can tell them how gullible you were in your youth or… perhaps how you saw through the media rhetoric and found the truth.

        Check out these articles for a better perspective:
        http://www.wnd.com/2017/08/limbaugh-who-is-really-behind-charlottesville-bloodshed/

        and
        http://www.wnd.com/2017/08/the-monumental-lie-about-charlottesville-and-america/

        • SocraticMeathead

          Those were the words of one of the leaders of the rally. They were in quotes.

          • GQ4U

            Was this the “leader” who applied for and got the permit for the rally? Or was it the Alt-Right leader, or Neo-Nazi leader, or Antifa leader, or the BLM leader none of whom applied for or received a permit to be there?

            And what where’s your response to Rush and D’Sousa’s comments on Charlottesville?

          • SocraticMeathead

            I don’t follow Rush or D’Sousa. I checked out D’Sousa just now, and not sure what you’re referencing, but if its his claim that Jason Kessler is some sort of leader of some left wing conspiracy to discredit the alt-right, I don’t buy it. D’Souza cited the Southern Poverty Law Center bio on Kessler as his source, and that does have a vague reference implying he knew someone from the occupy movement? What that bio does tell me is that kessler is probably less of an ideologue as he is someone looking for fame and fortune by being outlandish. That does not diminish what happened at the rally, or that so many white supremacists attending, marched, and chanted racist language.
            And by the way….if you think USA Today is not reliable but Rush is….hooboy…
            It is interesting to see so many alt right types reading OregonCatalyst.

          • GQ4U

            That does not diminish what happened at the rally, or that so many BLM & Antifa fascists attending, marched, and chanted racist language and attacked people with clubs & baseball bats. There were opposing hate groups that crashed the intended peaceful march by a peaceful group that applied for and received a permit to save the statue of Robert E. Lee, an honorable man. The Hate groups did not have permits to rally/march.

            If you don’t follow Rush or D’Sousa but rely on leftist garbage like USA Today that explains your stilted view on the march and perhaps life as well.

            I know of no alt right types reading the Oregon Catalyst but I know of at least one ultra-leftist that does… SM.

          • redbean

            Re Kessler’s very recent 180-degree turn from his leftist past: this is more than a “vague reference implying he knew someone from the occupy movement.” This whole things stinks to high heaven.

            http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-14/report-%E2%80%98unite-right%E2%80%99-organizer-jason-kessler-was-occupy-movement-obama-supporter-8-m

            D’Souza does a good job explaining the roots of leftist fascism:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNrytSEyUoY

      • redbean

        USA Today is not a reliable source of information. Jason Kessler, organizer of the Charlottesville rally, has been outed by the SPLC as a former Wall Street Occupy Activist and Obama supporter. This meshes with the false-flag modus operandi of leftists uncovered by Project Veritas last year.

  • Oregon Engineer

    Mr Williams; You cannot fight extremism. “This is why we need to fight extremism and supremacistism in more ways than one.” any suggestions? we still haven’t “won the war of Muslim extremism after 17 years in active warfare in the middle east. what makes you think it can be fought here? There is a way but the rioters involved and the news media do not want to find another way. it begins with allowing free speech without the violent counter protests. under the first amendment today’s hate speech is protected. Regardless of your or anyone else’s opinion, the speaker or protestor is allowed to express a different point of view. Now what was the initial rally all about? it took a lot of digging for me to find it and it is not very clear to the casual reader which describes most of the public. who cast the first stone? was this really a protest of the “white supremacists” or a totally different purpose? GQ4U knows. you obviously do not? The news media has been broadcasting very loudly about white supremacists and implies they were to blame for everything that happened. you video shows Just like any gang certain types of groups hold members by fear and violence. Are they labeled extremists?

    • redbean

      Thank you for multiple good points, Oregon Engineer. I recall in the 70s-80s the KKK and associated kooks would get a little media attention for rallies, and the ACLU would back them up because of free speech protection. Few young people were interested and the marchers were considered an oddity. Back then, young men had jobs and were starting families. In other words, they had a “life.’ Today, unemployment is rampant among young people and they are poorly educated. It’s no wonder some are attracted to extremist ideologies on the right and left. Trump is trying to overcome the corrupt economic influences underlying the economic deconstruction of the US; time will tell if he can rescue this lost generation.

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