Oregon choice for the first bill in the new Congress

The Oregon choice for the first bill in the new Congress
By Taxpayer Association of Oregon

A straw poll survey was mailed to taxpayer activists around the state asking them “What should be the first priority of the 2011 Congress?” with the choices “(a) Repeal Obama Health Care Reform, (b) Eliminate Earmarks, (c) Balanced Budget Amendment and (d) 3-day public notice before vote on any bill”

A total of 462 responded to the survey with 52% favoring repealing Obama care, 20% favoring a Balanced Budget Amendment, 18% favoring eliminating earmarks and 10% favoring a 3-Day Rule for voting on bills.

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  • Rupert in Springfield

    Repealing Obamacare would be a good step not only for the American people, but for the economy as well.

    If there is one thing that there seems to be consensus on, is that removing market uncertainty would be a solid step in improving our economic outlook. Congress took a long overdue, but welcome first step with renewal of the Bush tax cuts. The weight of having a possible huge tax increase come the first of the year did nothing good for our economy and it was reprehensible how the Pelosi congress put off deal with the issue until the eleventh hour.

    So it is with failure to deal with Obamacare. A bill touted as the flagship of the administration is so onerous that the administration itself has granted wavers to over 200 businesses. I think when you realize the thing you are most proud of is so bad you will exempt over 200 companies from its effects that says a lot.

    McDonalds is exempted under Obamacare.

    Can we say that again?

    McDonalds, the mega corporation that symbolizes America like few others found the bill so onerous they were exempted.

    That says a lot.

    We are at 222 corporations and counting that have been given waivers from this dopey bill.

    That says even more.

    What it says is not only is Obamacare rotten legislation, but the administration knows it. Otherwise they wouldn’t be granting waivers.

    Is that what we want as a country? Laws that are so poor that we have to exempt some of our major corporations for fear of the economic consequences of those laws?

    The only reason we got this bill was Obama’s ego. Failure to pass it would sink the Obama presidency we were told. Well we got it passed and it is so bad Obama is exempting companies left and right. That should be all the argument that is needed to defeat it.

    I would say that not only should a vote on repealing Obamacare happen – but that by simply highlighting the administrations own actions regarding the exemptions, it could pass with a veto override majority of 2/3.

    • valley person

      The McDonald’s exemption is to keep its current health care plan, which is below the standards required under the legislation with respect to overhead ratio. *But the exemption is only for a single year* . It buys some time to either adjust or shop around for a better policy.

      Can we say that again?

      *The exemption is only for a single year* .

      “Is that what we want as a country? Laws that are so poor that we have to exempt some of our major corporations for fear of the economic consequences of those laws?”

      Yes, and why not. It seems to me that allowing exemptions shows flexibility as opposed to the usual totalitarian approach of evil, undemocratic, callous, mean, inflexible liberals. So why complain about it? There are also lots of exemptions for states who want to try a different approach. Let a thousand flowers bloom, but get 95% of the population insured. You prefer single payer maybe? No exemptions?

      Exemptions are in the law because businesses asked for them. Maybe Obama should have just ignored them.

      And Rupert, if businesses want certainty, then how would starting over provide more certainty? If anything it would create more uncertainty, because no one knows what will be passed next.

      Nevertheless, it isn’t being repealed. This is the first of a lot of symbolic votes by a symbolic Tea Party that will also have to find symbolic budget savings, since reality just showed up and interfered with their symbolic pledge to cut an actual $100 billion form this years budget.

      Let the excuses begin.

      • Rupert in Springfield

        >Nevertheless, it isn’t being repealed.

        Unfortunately for the American people you might be right on this one.

        But lets remember Bush was overridden on a Cable TV bill and these days Cable TV providers are like Mother Teresa compared to Obamacare. I mean this bill is a dog!

        So, we are left with de facto repeal through failure to fund. Frankly for all concerned, including Obamas 2012 election, that would be the best option.

        However I am not so sure that it is in Republicans best political interest to repeal Obamacare. Its been an albatross for over a year around Obamas neck, and pretty much lost Democrats the House last November. Republicans didnt win, Democrats lost, and it was largely due to Obamacare.

        It is doubtful Obamacare’s popularity will go up any time soon, so repeal as a presidential election running issue might not be a bad thing.

        I mean the one thing we can all agree on is right now people want this thing gone. Will that change before 2012? I tend to doubt it.

      • Rupert in Springfield

        >Nevertheless, it isn’t being repealed.

        Unfortunately for the American people you might be right on this one.

        But lets remember Bush was overridden on a Cable TV bill and these days Cable TV providers are like Mother Teresa compared to Obamacare. I mean this bill is a dog!

        So, we are left with de facto repeal through failure to fund. Frankly for all concerned, including Obamas 2012 election, that would be the best option.

        However I am not so sure that it is in Republicans best political interest to repeal Obamacare. Its been an albatross for over a year around Obamas neck, and pretty much lost Democrats the House last November. Republicans didnt win, Democrats lost, and it was largely due to Obamacare.

        It is doubtful Obamacare’s popularity will go up any time soon, so repeal as a presidential election running issue might not be a bad thing.

        I mean the one thing we can all agree on is right now people want this thing gone. Will that change before 2012? I tend to doubt it.

        • valley person

          It won’t be repealed this term. If the Republicans win the Senate, keep the House, AND win the presidency in 2012, then MAYBE they could repeal it if they could get past a fillibuster in the Senate.

          Cable TV? Clue in here Rupert. The health care bill was the most substantive legislation passed by any Congress since Medicare. It ain’t cable TV. Major social legislation like this happens once in a generation, and none of it has ever been repealed. As the benefits continue to kick in and the fear stories are refudiated by reality, the American people, or most of them anyway, will have something they will want to keep, just like is the case with SSI and Medicare. This is one your party is unlikely to ever get back.

          Obama’s popularity has already gone up since the election. Check the Gallup tracking. He hit 50% for the first time in a while. The economy added 300,000 jobs last month. GDP estimates have been revised upwards. If 2011 is a good year economically, he will likely be back up to 55% favorable by the end of the year.And if that happens, the Republican candidate will be toast before the election even starts.

          But don’t worry. He is term limited. And there is always the chance the economy will tank again. You can always hope.

          And Catalyst…why doesn’t refudiated survive spell check? OED says it is a word now thanks to Palin.

        • Valid

          Yes, if only We the People could continue looking forward to catastrophic medical problems continuing to be the #1 cause of bankruptcy, then we would be on to something. While we are at it, perhaps the Republicans should take Larry Huss’ advice and get rid of unemployment insurance and then we’d REALLY be better off as a nation.

  • Emmett Hall

    I’m curious… how many surveys were sent out, and how many were returned?

  • Bob Clark

    I think the GOP would do best to offer to work on a substitute health bill in the same bill repealing ObamaCare. I would favor a gradual transfer of health care services and associated taxes to states from the federal government, while also allowing folks the right to buy healthcare across state lines and even international borders, with coverages tailored to individual specific needs rather than requiring for instance seniors to pay for pediatric care and other such miss matches.

    • Ron Marquez

      …..”I would favor a gradual transfer of health care services and associated taxes to states from the federal government”…..

      Medicare included ?

    • Founding Fathers

      Apart from Medicare and the VA, what federal health care taxes are there? Apart from the VA, what federal health care services are there?

  • Founding Fathers

    “Oregon choice for the first bill in the new Congress”

    Uh, that would be “Oregon right-wingers’ choice…”.

    And do you really want to allow insurance companies to cancel policies because people have the temerity to get sick? Do you really want them to be able to deny coverage to children?

    • Valid

      … or exclude people for pre-existing conditions?

  • Notsick

    They are exempting everyone who complains loudly enough.
    What a bunch of total screw-ups and morons.

  • John in Oregon

    A lot of “conventional wisdom” on the subject of Obamacare repeal may not be wisdom. Mostly because of new information.

    [] The CBO announced that after removing the double count, doc fix and other gimmicks they find that repealing Obama care will save more than half a Trillion dollars. These results are similar to the GAO findings that were suppressed by the administration.

    [] Obamacare is resulting in rate increases of 59% and the most costly aspects have yet to kick in.

    [] HHS taking steps for death counseling and price control powers without congressional authority for either.

    [] Recent revelations that the trial lawyer study published in Lancet is fraudulent is renewing the medical tort reform issue.

    [] Meanwhile John Goodman MD noted we now know the number of victims of pre-existing conditions. 8,000.

    [] States are facing huge mandated cost increases due to Obamacare.

    [] The “McDonald’s exemption” and 221 others were granted due to Obamacare driving insurance costs up by eliminating mini-med policys. The exemptions were granted to prevent millions loosing insurance as the elections loomed. That political metric will not change as Democrats attempt to justify Obamacare. They will not want millions to loose coverage during the public debate.

    [] In the Senate Democrats are trying an end run to destroy the filibuster. Should they succeed using parliamentary tricks consider the following.

    Reed is smirking with the ability to ram through legislation with no Filibuster. In the silence following Reeds gavel a knock on the door is heard.

    It is a courier from the House of Representatives, with the freshly-printed text of HR 1 Repeal of Obamacare and HR3 Repeal of EPA carbon authority.

    All forty-seven Republicans sign off on the bills. Immediately. So does Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia, who campaigned on EPA and Obamacare’s repeal. Including campaign commercials in which he used legislation for target practice for his hunting rifle.

    48 Votes Yes, only 3 to go.

    Then all eyes turn to:

    [] Kent Conrad of North Dakota. Blue Senator, Red State. Up for re-election in 2012′

    [] Claire McCaskill of Missouri. Blue Senator, Red State. Up for re-election in 2012′

    [] Ben Nelson of Nebraska. Blue Senator, Red State. Up for re-election in 2012.

    [] Bill Nelson of Florida. Blue Senator, Red State. Up for re-election in 2012.

    [] Jon Tester of Montana. Blue Senator, Red State. Up for re-election in 2012.

    [] Jim Webb of Virginia. Blue Senator, Red State. Up for re-election in 2012.

    You see, Reed and Schumer forgot that while the filibuster allows the minority party to promote legislative deliberation, it also allows the Majority party to hold the line when some of the Democrats stray.

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