Health Care Parody Ad — this one is good

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  • Zero

    Nice quality. Unfortunatley does not add to the constructive debate.

  • Rupert in Springfield

    Overheard in the constructive debate room:

    “OH MY GOD, how could you accuse Democrats of that…. This is outrageous! !!!! ….. We want to reform health care and a bunch of Nazi’s say we are trying to exterminate people”

    “Well, how much of a stretch is that really? Aren’t you the guys busy releasing terrorists and investigating the CIA?”

    “Um yep, ………..hmmm………….uhhhh………….Garcon! Another round of Vichy Water, this time with a slice of endive!”

  • steve

    Rupert-“grab me a schlitz, some slim-jims and bring some twinkies. We got some NASCAR to watch! Them cars sure go round in a circle lots, and fast” Rupert just farted.

    • Rupert in Springfield

      Wow, you guys really get cranky, and kind of juvenile, when your big plans start falling apart.

      Seriously, fart jokes? Most give up fart jokes when they are like eight, you are still making them? Frankly with that kind of humour, I wouldn’t be too quick to make fun of NASCAR fans.

      Anyway, looks like your boy, matching my predictions exactly, is going down in flames on health care.

      I’m sure releasing terrorists and prosecuting CIA officials will do wonders for his public credibility.

      • vp

        “Anyway, looks like your boy, matching my predictions exactly, is going down in flames on health care.”

        Oh Rupert, I think its a bit early to gloat about the fulfillment of your prediction. The Democrats have enough numbers to pass a substantial bill. Whether they end up self destructing over this remains to be seen.

        I’m sure releasing terrorists and prosecuting CIA officials will do wonders for his public credibility. ”

        Repeating a lie still does not make it true. No “terrorists” were released. At least none that were charged and convicted of terrorist acts in a military or civilian court. And who knows who if anyone at the CIA or former Bushies will end up being prosecuted. One does an investigation to determine whether any laws were broken and if so, whether prosecution is even warranted. I doubt you put up a fuss over the Whitewater investigation.

        I suppose you would prefer to live in the darkness rather than light a candle, but some of us would rather know what the hell happened during the Cheney-Bush years. Maybe you are comfortable with our government having the power to detain indefinitely without charge, deny right to counsel, keep people locked up only on suspicion, and torturing them and threatening to kill their families. A few of us are not comfortable with our government going to these extremes.

        • Rupert in Springfield

          >I doubt you put up a fuss over the Whitewater investigation.

          Well I doubt you know thing one about the Whitewater investigation. Regardless, the fact that you bring it up indicates you don’t comprehend the difference between that and this.

          In fact I am counting on praying for a continuation of that ignorance..

          This is one area where one has to weigh their options. Sure, Holder and BO will do profound damage to our country on the political/military front with this nonsense. The crowds that cheered the Lockerbie bomber as a hero will hardly like us or respect us more. Yes it will shore up the blame America first base, which BO badly needs to do after sacrificing public option. However it will also enrage the public, especially commencing with such action just days after Lockerbie.

          Does it endanger our country? Of course. Does it de rail national health care which with its debt exploding spending which might represent an even greater long term danger to the country? Quite possibly.

          I feel bad for the CIA and other interrogators caught up in the lunacy we got with the Holder appointment. However in a sense the appeasement of the left, which will alienate the majority will help throw the breaks on the administrations spending insanity. For that I am thankful.

          >Maybe you are comfortable with our government having the power to detain indefinitely without charge, deny right to counsel, keep people locked up only on suspicion, and torturing them and threatening to kill their families.

          Yep, I’m pretty much down with the most other people on that one when it comes to enemy combatants. In the spirit of bipartisanship though, I suppose that is at least one thing I am in agreement with Nancy Pelosi on.

          Actually I am totally fine with threatening to kill their families.

          Waterboarding? Perfectly fine with it. Anything that gets someone to talk in under a minute and causes no damage is a really good idea.

          Threatening someone with a drill? Sure, Id do it in a second. In fact I have a feeling I probably have.

          I think all of that was actually a really good idea and apparently it worked, at least according to Dick Cheney who said the only information they got out of high value detainees was by such methods. To me Cheney has a lot more credibility on this issue than Holder or Obama does because he has been the only one urging release of all information, not just cherry picking. I doubt my view is far off the mark in regards to the general public on that score.

          If you feel more moral being against such things, fine with me. Its not especially different than feeling more moral in having a belief in the Pope than those who don’t. However you might want to remember that your crowd is not exactly noted for being much in the moral high horse department. You are driving our grandchildren into massive debt after all so I wouldn’t start prancing around too much.

          >A few of us are not comfortable with our government going to these extremes.

          Oh I would totally agree with that. A few are.

          My bet is very few.

          In fact I am counting on it.

          • vp

            “Holder and BO will do profound damage to our country..”

            Or maybe they will undo some of the damage done by Cheney-Bush. It depends on one’s perspective on damage.

            “which BO badly needs to do after sacrificing public option”

            It must be fun making stuff up. I need to try that. Its up to the Senate and the House to decide what to include in the bill. Therefore, the public option is not Obamas’ to sacrifice.

            “However it will also enrage the public, ”

            Some of the public maybe. Mostly that part that is already enraged about everything else, which is about why hasn’t this posseur fixed everything Bush broke already. Rage on top of rage. Just keep the gubmint hands off my Medicare and my guns. Meds and guns. Now there is a winning combo if ever there was one.

            “Does it endanger our country?”

            How does an investigation into law breaking endanger our nation Rupert? What is “our nation?” Some of us think it is a piece of geography bound by the rule of law. You seem to think laws don’t matter if they are inconvenient to some end.

            “I feel bad for the CIA and other interrogators …”

            Then contribute to their defense fund. And Cheneys.

            “However in a sense the appeasement of the left, which will alienate the majority will help throw the breaks on the administrations spending insanity. For that I am thankful. ”

            For that you are delusional. You are connecting phantom dots. You assume the majority does not want to know what happened, and does not want a health care bill. You might be unpleasantly surprised on both counts.

            “Yep, I’m pretty much down with the most other people on that one when it comes to enemy combatants. ”

            Including those swept up in a battlefield who may have had nothing to do with it? Including 14 year olds turned into American authorities by nefarious characters, maybe on a grudge? Fine and dandy. But you should drop the quasi-libertarian pretense you base many of your “freedom” arguments on. Because a government that can do these things with impunity is not one you should rely on to protect your freedoms.

            “Waterboarding? Perfectly fine with it. Anything that gets someone to talk in under a minute and causes no damage is a really good idea.”

            Getting someone “to talk” is not hard. Getting them to tell you something useful is a bit harder. And several, maybe dozens died under interrogation or incarceration. They are not talking to anyone.

            ” I think all of that was actually a really good idea and apparently it worked, at least according to Dick Cheney who said the only information they got out of high value detainees was by such methods”

            And you believe him of course. Even though he has yet to show us a single instance where they did get anything at all of value by torturing. And the papers revealed so far seem to indicate the opposite. Nothing that wasn’t obtained by other methods. And…if waterborading worked to loosen the Sheiks toungue so quickly, then why did they do it repeatedly over a month’s time? It doesn’t add up. And when they threatened to kill his family his reply was “Go ahead. They will be with Allah.” Ooops. Turns out he really believes this cockamammie sh*t.

            “Cheney has a lot more credibility on this issue than Holder or Obama does because he has been the only one urging release of all information, not just cherry picking. ”

            Yes. He argues for years that nothing can ever be released because to do so would endanger national security. But now to try and salvage his own sordid reputation relase everything. To hell with national security and the names of CIA agents I guess.

            “If you feel more moral being against such things, fine with me.”

            More moral? No Rupert. I feel more human.

            “You are driving our grandchildren into massive debt after all …”

            Yes of course. Me and my fellow Democrats. But let’s replay history once again for you. Who first drove deficits throyugh the roof? Reagan and Bush 1. Who ran 4 balanced to surplus budgets in a row? Clinton. Who then unbalanced the budget once again and doubled the national debt in 8 years? Bush 2. How long has Obama been in office? 7 months, all of which has been during the deepest recession since the 1930s, and in which he inherited a 1.3 trillion FY 2009 deficit from his predicessor. Why do I not feel guilty? How do you feel? Proud?

            “My bet is very few. In fact I am counting on it.”

            Ok by me. You continue to count on that and everything else you count on. You counted pretty hard on Obama flaming out during the election as I remember it. And may you have many blessed years to keep counting on whatever it is you count on.

          • Harry

            I am enjoying the great summer evening way too much to waste too much time educating vp.

            But I can spend a few minutes on this:
            “”which BO badly needs to do after sacrificing public option”” (Rupert)

            “It must be fun making stuff up. I need to try that. Its (sic) up to the Senate and the House to decide what to include in the bill. Therefore, the public option is not Obamas’ (sic) to sacrifice.” (vp)

            ====

            Oh, please! Obama heads up the D party, which owns the Legislative Branch in super majorities.

            And Obama has the huge power of the Veto, and also the Threatened Veto.
            Obama can Veto any bill he does not want, including the public option bills. Or he can just Threaten to Veto, and then the bill will die a quick death in committee.

            I miss the days of dean. Dealing with this vp idiot is like shooting fish in a barrel.

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