Three Polls: Obama likability, GOP and NY Terror trail.

Gallup poll on New York terror trial
A new Gallup poll released Friday shows that most Americans believe alleged September 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed should be tried in a military court instead of a civilian court…59% of Americans believe Mohammed should be tried in a military court. Comparatively, only 36% believe he should be tried in a civilian court.

Quinnapiac University National Poll: Given four choices to describe their feelings about the President, American voters say:
“¢46 percent like Obama as a person and like most of his policies;
“¢28 percent like him as a person, but don’t like most of his policies;
“¢1 percent like his policies, but don’t like him as a person;
“¢20 percent don’t like him or his policies.

Karl Rove on Gallup Poll on GOP rise,
“Ominously for Democrats, concerns over spending have recently helped to flip the Gallup generic ballot to now favor Republicans by four points (48% to 44%). Last year, Democrats held a 12-point generic ballot advantage. The change has been driven by independents, who now favor Republicans by 22 points. By comparison, in the run-up to the 1994 congressional elections, Republicans first eclipsed Democrats in March of that year, when they gained a one-point advantage, before falling behind Democrats until the fall.”

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  • Max

    46 is under half last time I looked. This is pathetic. Surveys like this are stupid. They don’t call people with cell phones only – only losers still stupid enough to have land lines.
    I believe none of them.
    Although, if you have to believe any, then Rasmussen is best.
    These people are nuts. They word stuff so wrong as to skew the response before it is even made.
    They are not good pollsters at all.

  • Sagano

    Watch the NY trial supports to fall over time.

  • Bob Tiernan

    *Max:*

    46 is under half last time I looked. This is pathetic. Surveys like this are stupid. They don’t call people with cell phones only – only losers still stupid enough to have land lines.

    *Bob T:*

    But if they are always calling people on land lines, then you have to consider the fact that at one time Obama was well over 50%, and since then the drop has been consistent and steady in its downward trend, no matter who’s doing the polling. If people with land lines are changing their minds about this empty suit, then so are many others.

    Bob Tiernan
    Portland

    • Max

      Point well made. Thanks.

      I just wanted to remind people that the surveys have very poor question wording and that they are almost always worded in favor of O and others. These survey people have agendas.

      In point of fact, the numbers are lower even than what they report.

  • Bob Tiernan

    *Max:*

    In point of fact, the numbers are lower even than what they report.

    *Bob T:*

    They certainly can be. Lots of people who honestly reply that they generally approve of a president still wind up voting against him because they feel the challenger will be better.

    Bob Tiernan
    Portland

    • v person

      It also works the other way around. Once you run and actual person then that person’s flaws become part of the equation. Bush was well below 50% in populatity all during the 2004 campaign, so his side made the campaign about Kerry’s flaws and that worked pretty well.

    • v person

      Being an ultra gay man, I feel that the age of legal consent should be droped to 12. The reason it is 18 only deprives me of my wsanted prey, its just wrong!

  • Daphne

    Wasn’t Kerry a Viet Nam war hero?

    • v person

      Yes, but not after Rove and the Swift-boaters got through convincing people otherwise.

      • v person

        Being an ultra gay man, I feel that the age of legal consent should be droped to 12. The reason it is 18 only deprives me of my wsanted prey, its just not right!

  • Bob Tiernan

    *v person:*

    It also works the other way around. Once you run and actual person then that person’s flaws become part of the equation. Bush was well below 50% in populatity all during the 2004 campaign, so his side made the campaign about Kerry’s flaws and that worked pretty well.

    *Bob T:*

    Sure, it works the other way, too. But Bush started out winning by a hair, while
    Bam-Bam allegedly swamped McCain. Bush was going uphill from the start, and
    I doubt he had favorable numbers to spare. Bam-Bam can have some residual
    positive numbers from people who’ve already decided to bounce him. been
    there, done that.

    Bob Tiernan
    Portland

    • v person

      Bush initially “won” by a 5-4 Supreme Court hair, but after one year he was at 70% approval and still at 60% 1 year before the 2004 election. Public approval is fickle, and largely depends on the state of the economy and how well the war of the moment is going. Neither are going well today and Obama is at 50%. Not bad considering. But what really matters is where things stand nearly 3 years from now, and who the Republicans choose to run.

      Republicans are running to the opposite of national demographic trends. Couple that with an assumption the economy will be well into recovery in 2-3 years, and Obama stands a way better than even chance of being re-elected. The rest is just sturm und drang.

      • Anonymous

        “But what really matters is where things stand nearly 3 years from now, and who the Republicans choose to run.”

        Simply stated, this is the ONLY thing that matters. Economic recovery is the Republican party’s worst nightmare, and it is my guess that they will do everything and anything they can think of to prevent this from happening (on the down low, of course). If only Obama would accept a blow job from one of his interns!

        Cross your fingers, oregoncatalyst.com.

        • Rupert in Springfield

          > Economic recovery is the Republican party’s worst nightmare, and it is my guess that they will do everything and anything they can think of to prevent this from happening

          Interesting. So what you are saying is a political party would hope for the worst for the country in order to win an election?

          Because if that is true, then I sure hope you weren’t one of those liberals complaining when some Republicans said the worst thing in the world for Democrats would be victory in Iraq/Afghanistan. I hope you weren’t complaining when some Republicans said Democrats were doing everything they could to assure our soldiers suffered losses in those theaters so as to assure defeat for America and thus tarnish Bush.

          Were you accepting of such statements applied to you back then? They certainly were out there.

          I hope you had the integrity to accept such accusations as true back then with the same piety with which you throw your accusations now.

          Or are you saying only Republicans are capable of that which you accuse them of? If so, Id like to welcome another member of the hive mind liberal boiler plate squad to this blog.

          If not, then congratulations, you are the only liberal out there who took being called un American with some degree of grace and acceptance. My compliments.

          • Anonymous

            “Interesting. So what you are saying is a political party would hope for the worst for the country in order to win an election?”

            Yes, that is what I am saying.

            “Because if that is true, then I sure hope you weren’t one of those liberals complaining when some Republicans said the worst thing in the world for Democrats would be victory in Iraq/Afghanistan. I hope you weren’t complaining when some Republicans said Democrats were doing everything they could to assure our soldiers suffered losses in those theaters so as to assure defeat for America and thus tarnish Bush.”

            I was not. In fact, I am not a Democrat.

            “Were you accepting of such statements applied to you back then? They certainly were out there.”

            Rupert, you’re a loser.

            “I hope you had the integrity to accept such accusations as true back then with the same piety with which you throw your accusations now.”

            (see below)

            “Or are you saying only Republicans are capable of that which you accuse them of?

            I am not saying that at all. Why so defensive?

            “If so, Id like to welcome another member of the hive mind liberal boiler plate squad to this blog.”

            Far from it, though I think a case can be made for your being a member of the ultra-conservative kneejerk reactionary asshole hive.

            “If not, then congratulations, you are the only liberal out there who took being called un American with some degree of grace and acceptance. My compliments.”

            Doesn’t apply to me, Rupert. Though I’m sure I can speak for all the liberals out there when I say you can take your “compliments” and stick’em up your ass. I am a moderate conservative who has always felt that the anti-American rhetoric spewed from the jingoist republican blowhards was cheap and embarrassing.

          • Rupert in Springfield

            >Yes, that is what I am sayin

            Obviously I agree with that, so clearly then you felt some agreement with those who claimed Democrats were capable of wanting to lose the war so as to win an election.

            >Rupert, you’re a loser.

            I figured you would answer my question in such a manner.

            Its frustrating to have the unanticipated logical consequence of your reasoning thrown back at you isn’t it?

            >I am not saying that at all. Why so defensive?

            Inquiring about how you would judge similar circumstances is being defensive?

            Frankly I think you are just simply calling me defensive because you didn’t have much of an answer to question you probably should have foreseen.

            >Far from it, though I think a case can be made for your being a member of the ultra-conservative kneejerk reactionary asshole hive.

            And I think I could make a case that whatever computer you are on probably has the parental controls set very low.

            >Doesn’t apply to me, Rupert. Though I’m sure I can speak for all the liberals out there when I say you can take your “compliments” and stick’em up your ass.

            And I think I can speak for whoever is in charge of you that truancy should probably be taken more seriously.

            >I am a moderate conservative who has always felt that the anti-American rhetoric spewed from the jingoist republican blowhards was cheap and embarrassing.

            No you aren’t. You are a liberal trying to do a standard liberal tactic of trying to portray a moderate who feigns offense at conservatives in an attempt to get an organization to shift leftward so as not to alienate the people you would claim to be a part of.

            How do we know this? Well, first of all the lack of reasoning behind your statements and the sprinkling of name calling mixed with the anonymous posting. That’s a sure sign of a Daily Kos web site foundation member.

            We also know this from your use of the term moderate conservative.

            What in the world is that? Is that like a half pregnant woman?

            No conservative would ever use such terminology as it is ludicrous. If you want to play the fake moderate offended by conservatives game, I would suggest you concentrate more on the lexicon and less on the profanity.

          • Anonymous

            LOL

            Keep trying old man. Reality must be a terribly heavy burden for you to bear.

          • Not actually Rupert from Springield

            Gordon Smith referred to himself as a “moderate conservative” for years. So what was he really…a liar? Confused? The only true conservative is a conservative conservative? One can’t be middle of the road on some issues and conservative on others? One has to park one’s brain at the door and just do the ole check list on guns, gays, god, and greed?

  • v person

    As you all know, I hate Bush!

    • Rupert in Springfield

      Yep we got it.

      Which direction a rock will fall is in greater question than the direction of Deans take on a political issue.

      If its Democrat, it is to be defended no matter what. Not a lot new here, same old hive mine. Consult the DNC website, we have your take on it.

      • rupert in springfield

        That Rupert, was not me. That was the fake valley person who apparently lacks a life or ideas of their own. Beware. It could happen to you as well.

        • Rupert in Springfield

          Don’t you think if you are going to try faking me you should at least get the capitalization right?

          I sure hope you are good at something. Clearly writing is not it.

          • Rupert in Springfield

            How’s this?

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