Representative Flores and Thatcher on license rules

State Representatives Linda Flores and Kim Thatcher have submitted comments on the new proposed rules to enhance the security of Oregon’s Drivers’ Licenses below:

We are cautiously optimistic about the direction the Driver and Motor Vehicle Services Division is headed with these proposed rule changes. Optimistic, because for several years we’ve listened to federal immigration agents, law enforcement and others testify about thousands of people who are in the country illegally coming to Oregon to get a drivers’ license — many for “nefarious purposes” according to Governor Kulongoski. We believe these new administrative rules will help reduce that activity. However, we are very concerned about some underlying management issues as well as policy issues.

Numerous times in recent years DMV managers have told legislators, in testimony and in writing, the agency could not carry out the changes you are now proposing without statutory authority. In other words, DMV was not legally able to make changes without a bill passing in the Legislature. This rulemaking process raises serious questions about the credibility of the information provided to the legislature by those in management. Another example involves the cost estimates by DMV to implement the new federal license law enacted by Congress in 2005. Those estimates went from $10 million to $70 million in the space of a year. If adopting stricter rules for drivers’ licenses is so expensive, where is the funding going to come from for these rule changes?

DMV needs to be clear with Oregonians; technically these new rules will not require legal presence. The Legislature will still need to make that happen. Verifying Social Security Numbers doesn’t guarantee a person is here legally. The new federal standards require more proof of legal status, and we need those standards in Oregon. These draft rules still allow someone with a 6-month visa to get an 8-year drivers’ license. We understand limiting licenses to match expiration dates on visas would be up to the Legislature as well. These new rules are a step in the right direction, but they will not get us in line with federal law. That also requires action by the Legislature.

A few weeks ago at a meeting of state legislators from across the country, U.S. Department of Homeland Security Assistant Secretary Richard Barth referred to recent polls showing 82% of Americans support the new federal guidelines. He also said his agency is about to release new regulations to lower the costs to states and add more flexibility. 31 states enacted tougher immigration laws on drivers’ licenses and identification cards this year. It’s time Oregon joined them.

We’ve been pushing to get Oregon on board with the new national standards for nearly three years. The deadline to file an extension is February 2008. We urge DMV to request an extension as soon as possible and work with the legislature to get our state on the right path toward full implementation of the federal law. We support these new rules but wish they went much farther. Please let us know if we can be of assistance.


Linda Flores
State Representative

Kim Thatcher
State Representative

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  • Jerry

    Hillary’s gaff when she said she supported drivers’ licenses for illegals is costing her the nomination. There is no one with a scintilla of common sense who opposes proving you are a citizen before you get a drivers’ license.

    The only people who want illegals to get drivers’ licenses are the same people who want dead people and felons to vote and don’t even check when 150 people vote from the same address.

    When a party needs outright fraud to stay in power something is VERY wrong.

    I hope Oregon doesn’t figure all this out and loses all federal highway funds.

    We don’t need them, anyway, as we have the very successful light rail to address all our transportation needs.


    Don’t hire them, punish those who do and send them back to their native countries! Though not all are Mexican nationals, many are. Though they shouldn’t be targeted as the only illegals, they should be removed along with all other foriegn nationals here illegally.

    MEXICO CITY — The Mexican government reported the results of recent studies on Tuesday showing that 68 percent of Mexicans who migrate or try to migrate to the United States do so without documents and 55 percent of them hire immigrant smugglers.
    The report, timed to coincide with the U.N. International Migrants Day, also noted that the Mexican-born population living in the United States increased from about 800,000 in 1970 to more than 11 million in 2006.
    The majority of Mexicans now living in the United States — 6.2 million — are undocumented, according to the report, which was based on surveys of migrants and information from the government’s National Population Council.
    Almost 30 million people in the United are direct descendants of Mexico migrants, the report stated.
    In contrast, the report said the immigrant population in Mexico is quite small and has not experienced rapid growth.
    The number of foreign residents in Mexico grew from 340,000 people en 1990, or about 0.42 percent of the population at the time, to about 493,000 in 2000, or about 0.5 percent, the last year for which data is available.
    More than two-thirds of the foreign residents are from the United States, and many of those are of Mexican extraction.

  • RinoWatch

    The session held yesterday in Salem was the epitome of a useless “Dog & Pony show”.

    Where the hell was the Governor?
    Where the Hell was the Head of DMV?

    Before you ask—RW doesn’t do D&P anymore…..

  • Jerry

    I hope Oregon does not implement any safeguards, so all Oregonians will be prohibited from boarding planes if all they have is their “drivers’ license”. This would make sense to me. If we are so lazy and crazy as a state to give anyone who simply walks into a DMV office a license, then we deserve what we get.

    Of course people complained at the hearing. They are here illegally and want to continue to break our laws, take advantage of our kindness, drive without insurance, drive without knowing any English, and continue to vote illegally for Democrats.

    How very, very sad. This should not even be open for debate and there never should have been any hearings on something so patently obvious. These people truly are wacko to the max.

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