X-GOP Congressman wins Libertarian President Candidate.

This weekend, former Republican Congressman Bob Barr won the Libertarian candidate convention to run for President as a Libertarian (story here). Will this race matter?

Will it hurt McCain or Obama/Clinton more?

Will he get more votes than Nader?

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  • RinoWatch

    Yawn…zzzzzzz

  • Jack

    Bobby Barr what a nutt case. Just ask relitives
    of the Late Terry Schivo. Retire Bobby

  • Pinto

    I think he hurts McCain mostly.

    Even though he has done a 180 on issues like the drug war, Iraq intervention and the patriot act, I doubt he’ll be able to get enough bandwidth to explain his conversion to libertarianism to lefties.

    At best he’ll be portrayed as a flipflopper with a history of authoritarian behavior – not a compelling sell to Obama’s jejune followers.

    Barr will probably siphon enough votes from McCain to throw a state or two Obama’s way (Georgia seems likely). The best libertarians can hope is that he’ll spread the limited government message to a larger number of voters than that last whackjob, Badnarik.

    Saying all that, I’ll still probably vote for Barr. I was trying to rationalize voting for McCain before he started repeating global warming gibberish.

    It might appear cynical, but I’d rather see Obama (and his policies) take some of the heat for the coming economic meltdown because I don’t believe McCain is willing to take steps to deal with it effectively.

    From my vantage point, Republicans and Democrats are about equally responsible for our economic mess. So (as a Republican) I’m hoping Obama wins simply because I want to see the Dem’s share the blame as the economy passes from purgatory into hell over the next 5-10 years.

    Republicans can’t afford to keep putting up wallpaper over failed policies. We need to strip everything down to the studs.

    • Rupert in Springfield

      >but I’d rather see Obama (and his policies) take some of the heat for the coming economic meltdown because I don’t believe McCain is willing to take steps to deal with it effectively.

      I really hate to say this but if you think Obama will take heat for anything I think you are wrong.

      Remember Somalia? Just one of the occasions we did what the left wanted, used our military in an area where we had no interest, entirely subsumed it to UN control and suffered a disaster as a result. Did Clinton get blame? No, because he “inherited” the situation from Bush. This even after Clintons Sec Def, Les Aspin, admitted in congressional testimony that tanks were not sent in as back up to the troops trying to capture warlord Aidide because we thought it would be “provocative”.

      When you can emerge from that unscathed, then lob half our cruise missile inventory at Iraq and Afghanistan to deflect from embarrassing oral sex testimony and still have the left defending you, you know that there is a large constituency in the press that will blame a Democrat for nothing. You also know there are an astonishing number of followers within the party who will question nothing, so long as it has the Democratic party seal on it.

      Once elected, Obama will walk on water quicker than you can spell potato-e. The press will never question him.

      • dean

        Rupert…you have a way of becoming unhinged over these things. “The Left” pushed Bush 1 into Somalia? I suppose “the left” also convinced Reagan to put marines in Lebanon? Oh…and did “the left” convince Bush 2 to attack Iraq? Is there anything we are not guilty of?

  • Bo

    It is not up to Bob Barr his effect, it is up to Obama and mcCain. Their mistakes is his gain.

  • Rupert in Springfield

    >Rupert…you have a way of becoming unhinged over these things.

    And you have a way of keenly expressing an incredible inability to read a simple statement. What things am I becoming unhinged over? Is this sentence referring forward, in a case of incredibly clumsy writing, to the sentence that follows it?

    >”The Left” pushed Bush 1 into Somalia?

    Where in the world did I ever say this? What in the world are you talking about?

    >I suppose “the left” also convinced Reagan to put marines in Lebanon?

    Ok, So now you are constructing an inane argument and are arguing against it?

    >Oh…and did “the left” convince Bush 2 to attack Iraq?

    You are an absolute idiot. I never said this either.

    >Is there anything we are not guilty of?

    God knows, but one thing you are truly guilty of is not being able to read a simple paragraph and then going on to some sort of literary masturbation concocting inane arguments and then arguing against yourself.

    I am unhinged?

    To quote Winston Churchill – “Landscape Architect heal thyself!”

    • dean

      Rupert wrote:
      “Remember Somalia? Just one of the occasions *we did what the left wanted, used our military in an area where we had no interest*, entirely subsumed it to UN control and suffered a disaster as a result. Did Clinton get blame? No, because he “inherited” the situation from Bush.”

      What does “we did what the left wanted mean?

      Churchill never said that about landscape architects. He mat have said he wanted them to heal his garden. I think you meant to paraphrase him.

      • Rupert in Springfield

        It means exactly what it says. We pursued a course of action the left has frequently urged – use of our military, in areas where we have zero national interest, for humanitarian purpose with command preferably subsumed to the UN.

        I frankly thought it was a good idea at the time. I did not support the subsuming of command to UN nitwits though.

        What I was saying was that it was something the left had tended support this sort of action in the past, as they do now, but when push came to shove, all they could talk about was how Clinton “inherited” this awful situation.

        How you read into that that I claimed the left forced Bush to do anything is beyond me.

        That meaning was pretty clear. You missed it because you didn’t read or think because you were all wired up to insult me from the outset.

        Maybe in the future it would be best not to start with figuring out some sort of insult you want to deliver, then build inanities around it an an attempt to buttress it.

        >Churchill never said that about landscape architects. He mat have said he wanted them to heal his garden. I think you meant to paraphrase him.

        Good Lord you are a dullard aren’t you? Of course Churchill never said anything about Landscape Architects.

        • dean

          No…I have no interest in insulting you, and “unhinged” was meant in jest, not as an insult. I apologize if that came across as an insult. My interest is only in contradicting you when your interpretations of history are, in my opinion, innacurate or exagerated.

          Humanitarian intervention is supported by some on both the left and the right. It should be (my leftist opinion) on the table and used when objectives are acheivable at acceptable cost. Somalia appeared to be one of those cases at the time, as food aid was being stolen by gangs, and the mission seemed doable (provide security for food aid delivery). Things went off track when the decision was made to go after a war lord on his turf, and if I recall that decision was made and executed by the US military, not the UN.

          There are UN missions, and the US is an important UN member. So at times the US will be part of UN missions. I don’t know that direct command over US troops is ever subordinated to the UN, but they do establish the mission and rules of engagement.

  • Anonymous

    Is that a pot leaf on the podium?

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