Mixed gun messages from Hollywood

by NW Spotlight

When Americans need moral guidance, all eyes naturally turn to Hollywood – the center for decency and moral values.

In the wake of the recent shooting tragedies, America once again turned to Hollywood – and Hollywood did not disappoint. They spoke out in this video posted by the anti-gun organization, Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence.

However, a small wrinkle has developed. Someone on Youtube has put together this video that shows these same celebrities glorifying gun violence in TV and movies – right along with their apparently hollow calls for Americans to “demand a plan.” [warning: video contains profanity & movie violence]

This is exactly what the NRA recently wrote about:

“And here’s another dirty little truth that the media try their best to conceal: There exists in this country a callous, corrupt and corrupting shadow industry that sells, and sows, violence against its own people.”

“Then there’s the blood-soaked slasher films like ‘American Psycho’ and ‘Natural Born Killers’ that are aired like propaganda loops on ‘Splatterdays’ and every day, and a thousand music videos that portray life as a joke and murder as a way of life. And then they have the nerve to call it ‘entertainment.’

But is that what it really is? Isn’t fantasizing about killing people as a way to get your kicks really the filthiest form of pornography?

In a race to the bottom, media conglomerates compete with one another to shock, violate and offend every standard of civilized society by bringing an ever-more-toxic mix of reckless behavior and criminal cruelty into our homes — every minute of every day of every month of every year.

A child growing up in America witnesses 16,000 murders and 200,000 acts of violence by the time he or she reaches the ripe old age of 18.”

For those of us with sub-par IQ’s – let’s be patient with ourselves – we are not, nor can we hope to be – the intellectual peers of those who dwell in Hollywood. It’s certain they will be forthcoming with a clear explanation of this seeming mixed-message that even we can understand.

  • 3H

    Evidently the NRA, and others, have a difficult time separating fact from fiction.

    • DavidAppell

      Often I think the NRA’s entire worldview is fiction, except to them.

      • guest

        Suggest 3H and DA march their sass down the intent of the 2nd Amendment and thank their creator for the ilks of Charlton Heston, Ronald Reagan, John Wayne, Clint Eastwood, Tom Selleck, Chuck Norris, Karl Malone, Charles Barkley, Josh Brolin, Drew Carey, Jamie Lee Curtis, Bo Derek, Jeff Foxworthy, Kareem Abdul Jabar, James Earl Jones, Tommy Lee Jones, George Lucas, Conan O’Bbrien, Dolly Parton, Ron Pearlman, Ross Perot, Geraldo Rivera, Cockie Roberts, Julia Roberts, Kurt Russell, William Shatner, Stephen Spielburg, Bruce Willis, Chuck Yeager, Angie Harmon, Ted Nugent, Pat Sajak, Sylvester Stallone, Sigund Freud, Hank Williams, Jr, et al.

        • David Appell

          You forgot Kukla, Fran and Ollie.

          • guest

            You’re so ripe, take a seat next to Piers Morgan.

  • Rupert in Springfield

    Hollywood is ridiculous when it comes to guns. Law makers are ridiculous when it comes to Hollywood. This was demonstrated to me very effectively when I lived in NYC.

    At the time NYC was considering a semi auto ban. Again we heard the duck hunting argument, which is ridiculous. Somehow the fact that a semi auto AK47 was not that great for duck hunting meant it was not covered by the second amendment. Therefore lets ban them.

    During the hearings a representative from the motion picture industry testified that he felt those making movies should be exempt from the ban. Of course all the city councilors agreed with this nonsense and exempted the movie industry from the ban that was eventually adopted.

    The idiocy of this reasoning was profound. The idea that there is legitimate use for a firearm in a movie but there couldn’t possibly be the same for a citizen is so absurd it defies credulity. Movies could just as easily be filmed with non working replicas but a citizen could hardly defend himself with one.

    For the citizens of NYC a military style semi auto made perfect sense as a defensive weapon. They are low powered, so they pose far less of a danger to those in adjoining apartments, They also tend to be smaller than hunting rifles, so they are a lot more usable in an apartment. And, since citizens in NYC have to pay exorbitant licensing fees for a handgun, a rifle may be the only practical alternative.

    At the end of the day, the movie industry was exempted and the ban was passed. Movie makers have virtually no legitimate reason to own or use a working firearm. There is no constitutional provision for them to do so either. Yet you can just bet they are exempt from California’s ban and will be just as exempt from any federal ban.

    The moral is this – Those in favor of banning guns really have no interest in stopping crime. They simply don’t like other people owning guns. They like feeling good about themselves for passing legislation to accomplish that purpose. After all, if they really were interested in stopping criminals, they would have wanted to get to the bottom of Eric Holder selling thousands of such guns to known criminals, with those very same guns being used to kill hundreds of people.

    But they weren’t interested in that. Instead we just that through an entire summer of the very same people who want to ban guns now, calling anyone who wanted to look into Eric “Body Bag” Holders actions a racist.

    Sorry, when you excuse a guy for thousands of illegal gun sales and hundreds of deaths you have no credibility short months later when all of a sudden you feign concern with crime.

    • DavidAppell

      “Investigation finds no evidence AG Eric Holder knew of ‘Fast and Furious’ gun-running sting,” MSNBC 9/19/12


      • Rupert in Springfield

        Then BO’s claim of executive privilege would be illegal as that claim requires BO and cabinet level officials to have had discussions. Are you saying BO lied?

        Also, if that is true then and Holders refusal to testify quite mystifying. Why take a contempt of congress charge rather than testify?

        What would be absolutely more mystifying than any of this is why those who all of a sudden are so concerned with guns had positively no interest whatsoever in getting to the bottom of this matter last summer.

        I mean golly gee – a report by the justice department clearing its head of wrongdoing. What are the odds of that?

        More importantly, what are the odds the report is true when every action by Body Bags Holder is in direct contradiction to it?

        Nice try, but somehow your interest in excusing Holder, who you claim had nothing to do with FnF, while condeming the NRA, who had nothing to do with the school shooting, betrays your motives here.

        • DavidAppell

          They are less than the odds Fox News would totally hype the situation for the sake of viewership. Turn the channel and save your brain.

        • DavidAppell

          Now can we resume talking about how to protect schoolchildren, movie goers and mall shoppers, or are there any other diversionary topics you would like to bring up?

        • valley person

          Um…how can a “claim” of executive privilege be illegal?

          And why are you so obsessed with this particular incident?

      • Appell sauce

        Take your meds, David.

    • DavidAppell

      So now that it’s established Eric Holder knew nothing about those guns — that it was all ginned up by the usual Republican crazies and fed to an reactionary, typically ill-informed audience via Fox News — let’s talk about protecting schoolchildren from being slaughtered by weapons no one not in the military has a legitimate need to have.

  • valley person

    People in Canada, Britain, Australia, Japan, and every other developed nation watch the same violent movies and play the same violent video games as in the US. Yet far fewer people die in those countries at the point of a gun.

  • mike

    It is hard to imagine how people can be so stupid.

  • thetaxmancometh

    “There exists in this country a callous, corrupt and corrupting shadow industry that sells, and sows, violence against its own people.”

    I keep stumbling on this comment and wondering whether LaPierre was being purposely ironic. He knows that he is describing the NRA and the weapons industry, right? Is he shockingly stupid or just being offensively ironic?

    • mike

      He is describing these Hollywood elites with their heads up their a—–.

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