California Election Results

by In the news Wednesday, May 20. 2009

1A) Rainy Day Fund NO 65%, Yes 34%
1B) Education Funding NO 62%, Yes 37%,
1C) Modernize Lottery NO 64%, Yes 35%
1D) Child Service Funding, NO 65%, Yes 34%
1E) Mental Health Budget , NO 66%, Yes 33%
1F) Limit Lawmaker Salaries YES 73%, NO 26%

Posted by In the news at 05:00 | Posted in Measure 37 | 12 Comments |

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Rupert in Springfield

Gee, where are all those good liberals who always say “Id be willing to pay more in taxes….”?

I mean any time taxes come up, I am always informed of the upper income bracket of the left leaning friend I might be discussing this with. Surely in the spirit of hope and change they would have lined up to pay?

Seems to me that the low voter turn out and resounding defeat of the tax increases makes it clear people are not exactly enthusiastic about government right now.

The sole approval, no increases in pay initiative, was a nice “and don’t let the door slap your ___ on the way out”

Ahhhh, ain’t hope and change sweet!
- Sybella
  
  Gee, where are all those good liberals who always say “Id be willing to pay more in taxes….”?
  
  You know they don’t mean that. After all they only want you to pay what you worked for so they can feel good that somebody who sat on their behind can have what you worked for. . So-o-o-o what they really mean is they’d be willing for YOU to pay fore taxes.
  - Rupert in Springfield
    
    So true.
    
    In fact whenever I get into this discussion with a liberal I usually give them my honest liberal test.
    
    The Honest Liberal Test:
    
    Please show me any income tax form, from any year, where you paid more than the amount you were required to pay. Failing that, Please show me a single year where you did not take substantial and easy to claim deductions in order to pay higher taxes. No, failing to take the home office deduction to avoid an audit does not count. By substantial I mean something like not itemizing and instead taking the standard deduction when you have a large mortgage.
    
    I have yet to see a single liberal who can pass this test. It could hardly be due to privacy concerns, since invariably they always do tell me they are in one of the upper tax brackets.
    
    Somehow the crowd that is always advocating higher taxes never is very interested in paying those taxes themselves. Witness the results of San Francisco as another person has mentioned here.
    
    Curious behaviour isn’t it?
    
    More curious still is the irate response one gets when motivations are questioned, as you have done.
    - Sybella
      
      Better yet, look at the tax cheats who are now running our government and raising our taxes. They are very happy to spend your money, and they definitely fudged when it came to theirs. Geithner for example.
      
      curiouser and curiouser
    - contrarian
      
      Why should anyone, liberal or otherwise want to share their tax returns with you? Where I come from, its an absurd request to say “show me your tax returns.” The answer is, its not of your business.
      
      Not showing you a tax return has nothing to do with one’s liberalness or conservativeness. Its called privacy.
      
      Curious behavior is having the gall to ask anyone to show you their tax return.
      
      Anyway, a majority of upper income voters voted for Obama, which means they voted for the guy who said he would raise taxes on them. What do you make of that? They are all tax cheats so don’t care?
      - Rupert in Springfield
        
        >Why should anyone, liberal or otherwise want to share their tax returns with you? Where I come from, its an absurd request to say “show me your tax returns.” The answer is, its not of your business.
        
        Obviously you come from the land of non reading.
        
        Your statement is obviated by the sharing of their return with me already by the claim as noted in my post.
        
        >Curious behavior is having the gall to ask anyone to show you their tax return.
        
        And now we see whereever you come from, it is also the land of non reason.
        
        Not in the least. If one is going to brag about their tax bracket, as I noted liberals often do, one should be expected to back up all their puffery or be called a liar.
        
        Really the curious behaviour is claiming self sacrifice ( wanting to pay higher taxes ) and being galled when someone asks you to prove it.
        
        >What do you make of that? They are all tax cheats so don’t care?
        
        Don’t try and tell me about the behaviour of upper income liberals. I am from NYC, home to probably 50% of the nations supply of this sort of thing. I know these people better than you probably know your own tax return. I can promise you that to a one, I have never heard one claim they took the standard deduction rather than itemize. They will gladly tell me how much they paid though. My question to them is if they think taxes are so great, why not pay more?
        
        Seems pretty simple, and odd that you think my follow up question so invasive.
        
        Obviously you are yet another liberal who probably couldn’t pass the honest liberal test, even if it was just to yourself and involving no revelations to anyone else.
contrarian

From what little I’ve read, voters (or non-voters in this case) have heard Arnold cry wolf once too often, and don’t believe that folks will be let out of jail and the school year cut short. If and when those events actually occur, voters may have 2nd thoughts. I don’t know that people are ever enthusiastic about government in the abstract. But most people do want their kids educated and felons kept behind bars among other stuff government does.
- Joey Link
  
  It’s too bad those core services get neglected while all the liberal pet projects run the state into bankruptcy.
ANONYMOUS

Looking at the results, county by county, reveals that even the most liberal bastions such as San Francisco said NO to tax increases.

https://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/props/allprops.htm
Bob Clark

What will be truly aggravating is when taxpayers outside of California are taxed inorder to subsidize California’s continued spending spree. With the Dems in control this is very likely to happen. California spends, and we pay. How aggravating.