Cartoon: Gov. Brown’s Motor Voter problems

By Taxpayer Association of Oregon
OregonWatchdog.com

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Oregon, which ranks the nation’s #1 longest DMV lines, could see those lines getting longer under the newly approved Motor Voter Law making voter registration automatic in Oregon. The new law is ripe with problems, escalating costs and privacy risks. People who are registered with the DMV will automatically be registered to vote, potentially adding another 300,000 to the state’s registry. Driver’s license data going back to 2013 will be used to register eligible Oregonians who aren’t already registered, particularly younger and poorer Oregonians who tend to move more frequently.

The new law raises concerns about privacy and ID theft. The DMV will share personal information with election officials who maintain voter rolls that are open to the public. Only those with protected status, such as certain crime victims and police officers, will be exempt from having their DMV data transferred.   It is unclear whether a privacy victim of the new Motor Voter Law would then fit the classification of a crime victim exemption from the law itself.

The new Motor Voter mandate law will add to the cost of running elections, particularly a hardship for rural counties. In 2013 when the same law was being debated, Kate Brown estimated that the cost of implementation of the Motor Voter mandate would be about $300,000 for the state and between $1.1 million and $1.3 million total for the counties.

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  • MrBill

    Between this and legalization of pot, perhaps the state song should be changed from Oregon My Oregon to DMV by Primus. Consider the lyrics and see if they aren’t a better fit.

    I’ve been to hell. I spell it…I spell it DMV
    Anyone that’s been there knows precisely what I mean
    Stood there and I’ve waited and choked back the urge to scream
    And if I had my druthers I’d screw a chimpanzee-call it pointless

    When I need relief I spell it THC
    Perhaps you may know vaguely what I mean
    I sit back and smoke away huge chunks of memory
    As I slowly inflict upon myself a full lobotomy-call it pointless

    Barbecues, tea kettles, gobs of axle grease
    There comes a time for every man to sail the seas of cheese
    Now, life’s a bowl of bagel dogs, but there are unpleasantries
    Cold toilet seats, dentist chairs and trips to DMV-call it pointless

    I’ve been to hell. I spell it…I spell it DMV
    Anyone that’s been there knows precisely what I mean
    I’ve stood in line and waited near an hour and fifteen
    And if I had my druthers I’d screw that chimpanzee-call it pointless

  • Eric Blair

    So, where did you get your information that Oregon has the longest DMV wait lines. According to DMV.com West Virigina, Nevada, California, and Connecticut have the longest lines. Do you just make up your facts?

    https://www.dmv.com/dmv-wait-time-study-520585

    • guest

      Bid thee toady one, move to there’s and stay there’s monsieur E.B. Whopper Synapses.

      • guest

        plz 4give me! i have impulse control issue and a cognitive disorder. mom cant pay 4 meds anymore. basement so dark.

        • Rock Scissors Piper

          D’oh ewe again!

          • Rock Scissors Piper

            Didnt mean 2 talk about my ewe. she is special soft and all mine. she loves me

    • Taxpayer Association of Oregon

      Oregon ranked worst as ranked by DMV.com and featured by The Oregonian,
      “Oregon DMV may be the nation’s worst, survey says” April-28-2014.
      https://www.oregonlive.com/commuting/index.ssf/2014/04/oregon_dmv_the_nations_worst_s.html

      • Eric Blair

        My article from DMV.com is 2015, and does not rank Oregon with the longest lines, which is what you stated.

        In fact, from the article you linked yourself: “DMV.com’s “Wait Time Study.” Oregon ranks 12th out of the 41 states included in that analysis.”

        Did you read the entire article, or just the headline?

        • Taxpayer Association of Oregon

          The article says “Oregon came in dead last”. The states not listed were unable to be ranked. So out those states that were able to be data verified and ranked Oregon came out the worst.

          • Eric Blair

            OK, let me try this one more time. Your headline says: Oregon ranked nations #1 longest DMV wait lines. That is simply not true. It doesn’t say that in the article you linked, nor did they say that at DMV.com. In fact, your article doesn’t say anything about Oregon being the worst of all the state DMVs, although the Oregonian article did. Being worst in the nation and having the longest lines are not the same thing. You can be worst in nation without necessarily having the longest wait lines in the nation.

          • Taxpayer Association of Oregon

            Eric, We have genuine interest in understanding what you are saying. The DMV.com website places Oregon as worst wait time 37th (all others beyond 37 were unable to be ranked). If you have new information you can call us directly, we are open and friendly to your concerns. Below is the actual DMV.com website quote.

            OREGON… “Worst Ranking Category: In-Person Customer Service, Telephone Customer Service, Price of Services, Wait Times (37th)”

          • lulz

            Dude! get a clue

  • Bob Clark

    Seems like there would instances where someone not now qualified to vote in Oregon would need an Oregon drivers license for driving or identification, and would now also become automatically qualified to vote (even though they may have no interest in voting, either). I doubt the safeguards against this are anywhere nears full proof. Seems like a rather Soviet like style of governance. Does make it easier for Union paid vote couriers to run elections with results even closer than currently in their favor.

    Oregon continues on its march towards a government/public employee union owned state, a modern day version of the old company owned town.

    • .

      Bingo!

  • GObill sizemore

    Back when I had a daily radio show in Portland I interviewed a lady who worked for DMV. She told me that there were standing orders from management to keep the wait lines at 30 minutes minimum lest the public come to believe the DMV office was overstaffed. She said that when there was a threat that lines would become shorter than 30 minutes, someone was to close their station and go to the back office and do busy work until the lines built back up.
    Of course this policy showed total disregard for the waste inflicted upon the public and all of those people with other places to go and people to see, but it was the way things were done. That policy is akin to the widespread behavior of public entities spending all of the money left in their budgets at the end of the fiscal year so they can justify asking for more for the next budget cycle. I personally know of dozen of examples of this happening and I would venture to say that pretty much anyone who has worked for government can tell you how common it is.
    As someone of note once said, and I paraphrase: When money leaves taxpayers’ paychecks and enters government coffers it becomes a big pile of trash that seems to belong to no one and exists merely for politicians to get rid of any way they want.
    When it comes to DMV, the same is apparently true of our time.

  • HBguy

    Actually, Oregon’s Motor Voter law as envisioned by SoS and DMV would speed up the lines. Because currently the FEDERAL Motor voter law (Yes, there is one. It’s called the National Voter Registration Act of 1993) Has required DMV’s to offer voter registration cards to anyone who appears at the DMV. Then if the applicant wants to register, the DMV has a card prefilled with info they just took, and the applicant picks a political party affiliation if they want, and signs it. DMV then files it with the voter registration office.

    The OREGON Motor Voter law REMOVED, the face to face, inquiry and card completion and instead the DMV clerks aren’t required to ask the applicant anything about voter registration. The applicant info is just transmitter electroncially to the SoS, who makes sure the person is eligible to vote (age, citizenship) then registers them as non affiliated voters. Then a few weeks later, the applicant gets a card in the mail that says they’re registered as an NAV, and if they want to un-register, or select a party affiliation, they need to do so themselves.

    Spotted the problem? YES, Oregon Motor Voter law as envisioned by SoS and DMV would violate the Federal Law which requires the DMV clerks to offer voter registration cards to face to face applicants.

    So, Oregon would have to get a waiver of Federal Law. Or…..Oregon will have to continue the face to face inquiries and voter registrations.

    Here are two articles about implementation problems with Oregon Motor Voter.

    The first about how Oregons Motor Voter – as envisioned, will make our primaries even more partisan:

    https://www.oregonoutpost.com/motor-voter-and-closed-primaries-wont-work/

    And this one about how the State and Federal Motor Voter laws create a problem

    https://www.oregonoutpost.com/how-motor-voter-could-stall/

  • thevillageidiot

    So now it is even more critical that non-citizens (guest workers) get the right to have a legal drivers license to increase the numbers of registered voters. Is this a problem? Apparently not. regardles of measure 88. It will be tried again.

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