Who Will Redraw Your District in 2011?

Petition 50, which would allow Oregonians to decide who will redraw Oregon’s legislative districts in 2011, has gained strong last-minute support. More than 100,000 signatures have been gathered to date, but they need your help to gather more than the 110,000 valid signatures needed before July 2. Whether or not you have decided who would be best suited to draw Oregon’s legislative districts, your signature is needed on Petition 50 (sign a petition here), so that Oregonians have the opportunity to further vet the issue. For more information about Petition 50, go to www.petition50.com or visit Cascade Policy Institute.


Karla Kay Edwards is Rural Policy Analyst at Cascade Policy Institute.

  • leinad

    Would folks be fighting for this if Republicans were in control?

    I didn’t think so…

    • Davis

      You mean you wouldn’t?

      • Rupert in Springfield

        No, he means that if Republicans were in control we probably wouldn’t have had the brazen corruption the Democrats have displayed in Oregon on this issue. Thus this probably wouldn’t even be an issue at all were it not for the unconscionable decisions coming out of the Secretary of States office.

        In other words what he is saying is that the issue wouldn’t exist if we hadn’t just been through the most partisan and corrupt Secretary of State Bill Bradbury, a Democrat, with no end to the partisanship of the office on the horizon.

        • valley p

          You mean like in Texas when Tom Delay hijacked redistricting there? That is the Republican non partisan approach? Please.

          • Rupert in Springfield

            No idiot

            I don’t mean like in Texas.

            Texas is a different state idiot.

            We are in a state called Oregon idiot.

            The petition being discussed is in Oregon idiot

            My comments were about the SOS in Oregon idiot.

            So no, I don’t mean like in Texas you absolute imbecile.

            Got it idiot?

            Good

            Get a map idiot.

            Oregon is not Texas, they are totally different states and no where did I address Texas you complete fool.

            Seriously, I often wish I had lost our bet that you welshed on. I would love to see you produce five adults who think your boobery is at all persuasive.

            Hell, Id be amazed if you could produce five children you could convince to brush their teeth.

  • leinad

    No, it just seems like the rules need to changed to spite the other side. The divisiveness makes me sick. We all know how this campaign will be run. The Sec of State is corrupt, Dems are corrupt, blah blah blah. I am all for independent commissions, I just wonder if Republicans would like an independent commission if Rick Dancer were in the SOS’s office.

    • Rupert in Springfield

      >I just wonder if Republicans would like an independent commission if Rick Dancer were in the SOS’s office.

      Maybe, maybe not.

      They might very well be just as partisan.

      However the chances of them being less partisan than Democrats is probably greater.

      Is there proof? Nope.

      Is there reason to believe so? Probably.

      Your evidence would be that in general Republicans have some capacity to criticize their own or support the right decision of the opposition. They may not do it every time, and they may not do it with the vigor you would wish for, but the fact is they do do it.

      Look at todays headlines.

      BO just fired McChrystal for comments in Rolling Stone.

      If Bush had done that, Democrats would have been all over him for his fragile ego. Republicans? By and large they supported the Presidents decision. Any listen to Rush/Beck/Hannity or whatever conservative talk show you can think of would have confirmed this.

      Pick just about anything – Do Republicans always criticize their own members when criticizem is due? Not on your life. but they do it a hell of a lot more than Democrats ever will.

      Don’t believe me?

      Fine, in about five seconds I could scroll through this blog and find numerous comments from people known to be conservative criticizing Bush.

      Could you do the same with any liberal here?

      Not on your life.

      Take a scroll back through some of the past articles and comments – I think you will find far more conservatives and Republicans criticizing Republicans than you will ever find liberals, or even Democrats, criticizing Democrats.

      Does that mean Republicans are never partisan?

      Not on your life.

      Does it mean Republicans tend to be less partisan?

      Probably.

      Because the simple fact of the matter here is that there is ample evidence that Republicans on this blog, myself included, have a long record of criticizing Republicans when they are wrong.

      Conversely liberals and Democrats on this blog will defend almost anything their party does. They will condemn no act, no matter how egregious, That’s how we have an admitted tax cheat running Treasury for example.

      • valley p

        “Texas is a different state idiot.”

        You are saying that Texas is a state idiot? Maybe you mean that HAVE a different state idiot? Of course that would mean that both Oregon and Texas have state idiots, which might be the only thing we have in common. Now there is one place we can all agree that the budget should be cut.

        “If Bush had done that, Democrats would have been all over him for his fragile ego. ”

        And your evidence for this is what…that Democrats used to criticize Bush? And Republicans don’t criticize Obama on a daily basis? A number of Democrats dear Rupert, voted for Bush’s budget busting tax cuts. A large number voted to support the idiotic invasion of Iraq. Not a single House Republican voted for Obama’s stimulus, and not a single Republican period voted for the health care bill. In other words, when it comes to putting up, Republicans don’t, Democrats do.

        “Fine, in about five seconds I could scroll through this blog and find numerous comments from people known to be conservative criticizing Bush. ”

        OK. I give you 5 seconds. Find something. And don’t cheat. Just kidding.

        “Take a scroll back through some of the past articles and comments – I think you will find far more conservatives and Republicans criticizing Republicans than you will ever find liberals, or even Democrats, criticizing Democrats.”

        Well BFD. This is a self described “conservative” blog. In practice that means that nearly every initial post is critical of something Democrats or liberals have done or are trying to do. And most responses are of the order: “Yeah…right,,,Democrats suck. All they do is want government to be too big and the heal the freaking planet. What with that?” Once in a blue moon a self described “conservative” says that maybe Bush was too loose with the Federal purse strings, or that some Republican or other is not conservative enough to be a true conservative who would really really fail to conserve anything on the planet at all. Then the 2 or 3 liberals (Harry thinks they are all me by the way, so maybe there is only 1 of us) who bother with this place out of a masochistic sensibility that enjoys being called an idiot 24 times a day either poke fun at fact challenged posts such as yours, like “there is no global warming according to some scientist somewhere and anyway Al Gore lives in a big house and flies in airplanes,” and offer actual facts in rebuttal, like “yes but every major scientific organization in the world says otherwise, and there is this thing called physics.” From this lopsided exchange you conclude that Democrats are less critical of democrats.

        But ask yourself Rupert, what would be the point of a liberal Democrat showing up here of all places to heap more criticism on liberal democrats? That would be like tossing more dirt on a huge hill of the stuff that is way past its angle of repose. If you want to see us criticizing each other, spend time on a more liberal site. You will find plenty. read Glenn Greenwald or David Sirota at Salon.com. They think Obama is a traitor to liberals everywhere. Watch Olberman or Maddow rip Obama and especially Senate Democrats for failing to push climate legislation, single payer, and nationalizing the banks. Its all over the place man. We are just as good, maybe better, at forming circular firing squads as you guys are. And we are proud of it.

  • rural resident

    Actually, Republicans *do* have a track record on situations like this. Remember term limits? Term limits were the solution to entrenched interests (always Democrats, of course) blocking reforms that would be “good for America.” Once we moved out those ossified legislators (Democrats), the system would hum like a finely tuned machine. So we enacted term limits.

    What happened as soon as the Republicans gained power? Why, term limits suddenly didn’t seem nearly as important. In fact, they kept “experienced leaders with valuable knowledge” from continuing their “essential service” to the state/federal government. And, of course, those term limits had to go. So they went.

    As I’ve written often before, Republicans had every opportunity to elect a relatively sympathetic alternative to Mr. Bradbury (who has been blatantly partisan, but not corrupt). They chose ideological purity over sensible politics when they dumped Lynn Lundquist and selected Lynn Snodgrass to run against Bradbury. That’s a political choice. It doesn’t mean that the system is broken.

    For better or worse (and it’s some of both), this is a left-of-center state. Republicans need to decide whether they want to be strategic or dogmatic. If they continue to choose the latter, this is part of the price they’ll pay.