Lars Larson: The Republican Party better start listening

I think it’s time the Republican Party woke up and realized the people want something different than what they’ve been offering.

The Party got quite a lesson in Christine O’Donnell. She ran for the U.S. Senate in Delaware as a Republican against the opposition of the Republican Party. Get that? She ran as a Republican and the Republican Party opposed her candidacy.

Guess what Republican voters did? They chose her as the nominee over the choice of the Party.
They chose her over the Rhino Republican Mike Castle. He was the former Governor of the state of Delaware. Apparently voters didn’t think much of him, to choose him as the nominee. They chose Christine O’Donnell.

Initially the Party said, “We’re not going to support her”. They had to turn tail on that.

The Republican Party had best wake up and smell the coffee. They better listen to what the voters are saying or they are going to be in the dust bin of history.

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  • Ron Marquez

    The only thing O’Donnell’s candidacy has done is assure the senate will remain in the Dems hands.

    Good job, Sarah.

    • DUH

      That would be the worst thing for the Dems, they’ll have no one to blame and will get blown out next election too.

      • Anonymous

        I guess you’re saying “Defeat is Victory.” Orwell would love that.

  • eagle eye

    Real businessmen weigh in:

    “Western neighbors aren’t doing any better than Oregon businesses”

    https://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2010/09/western_neighbors_arent_doing.html

    • Rupert in Springfield

      Gee – That’s a real aspiration “We ain’t any worse than anyone else”

      You know, when you unemployment rate is above the average on a consistent basis it might occur to one that you have to be better than your neighbors in your business climate, not just as bad.

      It really takes a union mentality to look at “not being any worse than anyone else” as something to be proud of.

      If Oregon wants to attract business, increase employment and state revenues it needs to provide a better climate than our neighbors. “Not any worse” is a pathetic goal and nothing to be proud of.

      • eagle eye

        “We ain’t worse than anyone else” is a lot better than the constant whining and bad-mouthing we get here from supposed business people. Actually, what they say is “Overall Oregon is doing as well or better than our West Coast peers.”

        From listening to the mopes (Most Oppressed People on Earth) around here, you’d think Oregon was the world’s worst place to do business. A union mentality? Well, neither the businessmen who wrote the article, and certainly not I, are union members. I would gladly have any of them locate in Eugene, where I live. And they would certainly add something to Springfield!

        • Anonymous

          “MOPES” is great — I’ll have to use that one. Thanks!

          • a retired professor

            Yes, MOPES. Great!

  • Rupert in Springfield

    The thing you have to love about the O’Donnell win is its strategic importance for Republicans.

    Look, we are talking Delaware here alright? You aren’t going to get William F Buckley out of Delaware, you are going to get a Mike Castle. Republican officials in Delaware cringe at the thought of offending Democrats, traditional bipartisanship as in Republicans acceding to Democrats is a valued goal.

    So what does the O’Donnell win mean for Republicans?

    It means win win – If Mike Castle had won the nomination it would have been devastating to Republicans should they win a majority with the Senate. The absolute worst thing for Republicans would be to win a majority with a bunch of moderates. We know what would happen then – the majority would be wooed by the obvious press response “Republicans are on trial here, can they work with Democrats to help the president pass his agenda?”.

    The best outcome would be Republicans win majority with a clear conservative consensus, enough to hold the line on clarion calls for bipartisanship in the traditional sense – now that Republicans have won a majority, they need to give up their values and accede to Democrats.

    The second best is to increase numbers with conservatives but not win majority. Democrats are still on the hook for the nations ills, but Republicans would be more able to stop the the Democrats more damaging aspirations. They would have two years to prove themselves in this regard and if they do they would be well placed for 2012.

    The worst would be to win majority with a large dependence on moderates who cant wait to hep the Democrats with Obamas desires. The nation would suffer much of the damage of Obamas goals and get all of the blame by the populous who is wary of the Obama agenda.

    • Anonymous

      As the great Charles Krauthammer pointed out, Castle voted against Obamacare, the stimulus. There will now be one less vote to undo these. Congratulations!

      Krauthammer is now being bashed along with Karl Rove as a RINO. Way to go Republicans! Over the cliff. If this keeps up, Obama and the Democrats may even manage a comeback. Oh, I know, the next step will be to shut down the federal government. Just what the American people want. It worked great when Gingrich did it!

    • Ron Marquez

      …..”The absolute worst thing for Republicans would be to win a majority with a bunch of moderates.”…..

      Disagree, Rupert. I’ll take the majority any way I can get it. At least the leadership would have control of the agenda and McConnell is better than Reid any day of the week.

      For now it looks like Republicans will have to be satisfied with control of the house and a larger senate presence.

      • Rupert in Springfield

        >I’ll take the majority any way I can get it.

        I wouldn’t. But to each their own.

        I frankly think a Republican majority with a bunch of moderates or those who want to be loved by the press is exactly what got us 2006.

        If the Republicans do that little number again they will be finished for good.

        The pressure on Republicans, should they get majority, to help pass Obamas agenda will be immense.

        We saw what happened under Bush2 and got Obama as a direct result of that.

        Like I said though, I can understand your position. I just dont think it would be the best strategically.

  • Bad Man

    You know Lars – when I lived in Oregon I always thought you were mostly a loudmouthed buffoon tht most people didn’t take seriously. Now that I live elsewhere I KNOW you and most of your opinions are a complete joke. And yes Lars – I DO HAVE MORE MONEY THAN YOU AS WELL and don’t live in a place where it rains 7 months of the year…

    • Founding Fathers

      To equate Lars with loudmouthed buffoons is an insult to loudmouthed buffoons everywhere.

      Lars isn’t a buffoon, he’s a LIAR who would get fired from his job at most places. Fortunately for him, he works in right-wing talk radio, where lying doesn’t get you fired, it gets you promoted.

      • The Bill Post Radio Show

        Well then, I would advise all to listen to the ONLY talk show in Oregon that’s both Conservative AND crazy! Yes, wingnuts can be funny. Listen to The Bill Post Radio Show, weekdays at noon on am 1430 KYKN or online at http://www.1430kykn.com for an alternative to boring talk radio!
        By the way Lars: it’s RINO not RHINO as in Republican In Name Only. Rhinos are those furry little critters that live in Africa.

        • Founding Fathers

          Sorry, Bill, but earning a living takes precedence over crazy talk.

          By the way, Bill, Rhinos aren’t that furry.

          Do you make stuff up like Lars? That’s the problem I have with conservatives, is they either make stuff up and present it as fact, or they’re just ignorant. Like they’re ignorant of the fact that the recent President who had the worst record for budget deficits was Ronald Reagan.

          They ignore the fact that unemployment went up when the tax rate for the rich went down in Reagan’s first year, and that unemployment went down when the tax rate for the rich went up in Clinton’s first year, and unemployment went up again when the tax rate for the rich went down in Bush’s first year.

          As Stephen Colbert says, reality has a liberal bias.

          • The Bill Post Radio Show

            Wow, see you proved my point already. Yes, I am a Conservative and yes I am a funny guy and yes RHINO’S are NOT Furry. I am so glad you caught that. Sheesh, it was keeping me up last night. I know of course that they have fine feathers.

            Do I “lie” like other conservatives? Gee, it depends on how much you pay me at the time…..
            You really should take life less serious. This is why you NEED my show in your life….;0)

      • Rupert in Springfield

        >Lars isn’t a buffoon, he’s a LIAR who would get fired from his job at most places.

        Look,, just because you make up nonsense that is at odds with the truth doesn’t make someone else a liar.

        What is your problem?

        The Senate investigated the question of McCains citizenship status regarding his run for the presidency, it was highly publicized and you somehow missed it – you being ignorant of something doesn’t mean it never happened, it just means you were wrong.

        Get over it and move on.

        • Founding Fathers

          Rupert,

          I guess you liked the Kool-Aid so much you went back for seconds.

          Here’s a for instance. Last week, Lars said that most of the terrorist acts of the last 40 years have been by Muslims.

          Gee, I guess he forgot about the IRA and UDF, Timothy McVeigh and Eric Rudolph, Operation Condor and the death squads in El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala.

          You’re entitled to your own opinion. You’re not entitled to your own facts, and neither is Lars. If I made stuff up like that in my job I would get fired. In right-wing media world, making stuff up doesn’t get you fired, it gets you promoted.

        • Founding Fathers

          Rupert,

          It’s tough to have a conversation with someone who argues that 2 + 2 = 5.

          You keep claiming that I make things up. It was Lars who made up the “fact” that there were “hearings” into John McCain’s birth. There were no hearings. He at least was smart enough to take his post down when I pointed out it’s a lie. You, however, keep claiming that up is down.

          Good luck with that.

  • valley p

    “I think it’s time the Republican Party woke up and realized the people want something different than what they’ve been offering. ”

    Yes, you would think the Republicans Republican governance of 2001-2007 that resulted in a spectacular collapse of the economy, a doubled national debt, and 2 lost or nearly lost wars would wake the party up. So what has been the response?

    Double down. Insist on extension of the same tax cuts that led to a lousy economy as non negotiable. Argue for Obama to wage another war, this one with a bigger, better armed, and crazier foe named Iran. Keep gays out of the military, keep gays from marrying, and while you are at it don’t let anyone masturbate, as if the American people have not had enough of the culture wars. Maybe Republicans can plug Terry Schiavo back in while they are at it?

    Something different turns out to be accelerating the same policies that made a mess of things. Fortunately a segment of the American people have short enough memories and may turn the keys to the car over to the drunks who ran it off the road in the first place. But once back in power, what will these “new” Republicans do? Same as before. Transfer money from young working people to non working old people, threaten more wars, cut taxes for those who have more money than they know what to do with, drill more deep sea oil wells that can’t be managed safely, take the tops off more mountains to get at filthy coal reserves, and finish the job of running the nation and perhaps the entire planet into the ground.

    I’ve seen the future if Republicans get back into power. WALL-EE.

  • Founding Fathers

    https://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/19/opinion/19kristof.html

    I believe that Kristof is apologizing for extremists like Lars, who lumps the Sufis who want to build a community center in Manhattan with al Qaeda.

  • Founding Fathers

    Lars is such a lover of freedom that he supports Iran’s jailing of people who may or may not have inadvertently crossed over the Iranian border, and thinks that the U.S. should do the same.

  • Rupert in Springfield

    >I DO HAVE MORE MONEY THAN YOU AS WELL and don’t live in a place where it rains 7 months of the year…

    Why is it that someone boasting about having more money than Lars, and doing the all caps thing on a blog is so singularly pathetic?

    • valley p

      Have to agree with you on that one Rupert. Next thing you know they will be arguing over their respective weenie sizes.

      • Founding Fathers

        I believe that would be Resistance is Futile! where bragging about weenie size passes for political discussion.

  • Jerry

    I think most of this was covered in my article about the death of the repubs.

    • valley p

      There was nothing in your article about comparative weenie sizes.

  • John in Oregon

    I often see the position that O’Donnell’s just means that the Senate will remain in control of the Democratic’s. The arithmetic is simple Castle = 51 and O’Donnell = 49. Therefor Castle is greater than O’Donnell.

    I disagree.

    This situation calls not for arithmetic but algebra if not calculus. My own calculation is that 45 Republicans with constitutional principals is greater than 65 beltway Republicans.

    Ben Domenech captured the Calculus well. “Conservatives should not tolerate the likes of Mike Castle because of the simple fact that a 51 member Senate with Mike Castle is a Senate where Mike Castle is the most important vote in the room. As Specter and others before him, *that [one] Senator will set the terms of policy debates, determining in advance what can succeed and fail.” … “Again and again I saw this play out during my time as a Senate staffer, and anyone who tells you contrary is incredibly naive about the way legislative decisions are made.”*

    *”electing moderates simply to secure a majority for Republicans is a self-defeating proposition.* We’ve seen this play out time and again. *Career politicians abhor principle, and adore power* and fecklessness.” … “They dilute the brand, confuse voters and sell out conservatives [and the people] just at the moment they are needed most.”

    Consider Specter, Crist, Bennett, Murkowski, and Castle. Specter jumps parties (a second time) when challenged in the primary. Crist jumps parties when challenged in the primary. Bennett lashes out after loosing the nomination. Murkowski approaches libertarians then mounts a write in campaign. Castle is said to be considering a write in.

    Murkowski in particular is a puzzle. She could easily have supported Joe Miller in the general and then in two years with added strength filed for Senate against the current Alaska Democrat senator. Instead Murkowski placed everything on double zero for the win now. Either that, or worse, chose to inflict as much general election damage upon Miller as possible. So much for any integrity of these candidates endorsed by the establishment republican party.

    Nothing demonstrates the quest for power more aptly. Specter, Crist, Bennett, Murkowski, and Castle will do anything to gain and keep power. Even to become the pathetic figure of Gollum in the quest for Tolkien’s ring of power. The power of being one of one hundred corrupts.

    Now before a Democratic becomes tempted to trumpet “that’s typical of Republicans”. We can have that discussion if necessary. The discussion of Kennedy VS Carter in Moscow, Kennedy VS Carter on healthcare, and Kennedy VS Reagan in Moscow. We can have that discussion, but for now the task before us is how the people regain control of government.

    The New York Times proclaims the “Democratic operatives are ablaze with excitement” … that “Tuesday’s primaries should illuminate the growling face of a new fringe in American politics”. The fringe of Toomey Pennsylvania, Lee Utah, Miller Alaska, Rubio Florida, O’Donnell Delaware, and Angle Nevada. Just like the fringe McDonnell Virginia, Christie New Jersey, Brown Massachusetts.

    The Times continues describing Republicans and “the tiny fraction of furious voters” who “steer them into the swamp for years ahead.” Demanding they “repudiate the worst of the Tea Party crowd” and “govern without appealing to the basest political instincts.” Trashing Republicans as “they have preferred to greedily capitalize on the nuclear energy in the land without considering its destructive effects.” Meanwhile Democrats “need to counter the toxic message of the Tea Party so voters have an alternative.”

    What toxic message? The message that the People run this place?

    The Times incendiary words aside, everyone should be aware that _the people do not agree._

    The seeds were planted back in 2006. The pendulum began to swing back to Dem. Partially due to Democratic party tactics. Nevertheless there was an undercurrent of resistance to spending, Bush never vetoed a spending bill. we saw this resistance in Oregon as conservative voters said they would not vote for Ron Saxton. They refused any longer to vote for the lesser of two evils.

    The pendulum swung Dem.

    That swing was stronger in 2008 with more voices saying they would not vote McCain as the lesser bad choice. Obamas campaign was remarkable in the battle ground states, eking out a marginal win in nearly all. Yet there is more than a little evidence that McCain lost many battleground votes on the back of people refusing to accept the lesser.

    Even before the election the people said no. No TARP. No bailouts. Stop!!! And the government ruling class chugged on.

    The pendulum was far left Dem and rage built. Stimulus, bailouts, spending and takeover. Rick Santelli put a name to the anger, TEA party. Later came 9-12 and the opposition grew.

    The pendulum stopped. Then changed direction.

    Now the remarkable happened. The new direction ignored the Republicans. The swing between D and R was gone.

    The people proceeded to take back and remake the Republican party. Delaware, Virginia, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Alaska, Florida, Utah, Nevada, Massachusetts, Colorado. The people will choose the candidates!!!

    I never fail to be amazed. Someone I never expected gets it. Chris Mathews of all progressive left people said;

    *”* I supposed I had my eyes on something different. While others were seeing dead people, the defeated Mike Castle, who was supposed to be strong this November, I saw the strength of the flames that consumed him and will consume many others this rapidly approaching election night. I have waited all my adult life for an election in which voters have the fire to reach up and burn those who have been running the show for decades. But I didn’t know it would come from the right and center.

    2010 could be the first year in modern times when being in office in Washington and part of Washington is the worst possible credential when facing voters. I don’t know how far the fire will burn. Based upon last night’s returns, I expect it has a long way to go. It could topple the House and, yes, the U.S. Senate. It could bring the defeat of people who feel even now they are not endangered. It could produce an election night spectacle of name brand politicians standing before stance supporters saying their careers are kaput.

    Why is this happening? Because this economic system is failing to produce the security and opportunity people have come to expect in this country. In this middle-class country, the middle class are scared and when people are scared, they get angry. They sense a rot at the top and are ready to chop it off.

    If the plan of those in power to raise a ton of cash and run nasty TV ads saying you can`t vote for this new person, that he or she is flawed — I expect the voter will say, “Are you telling me I have no choice but to vote for you? Are you saying that I, this little voter out there, dare not take a chance on someone who has not yet let me down as you have? If that is what you’re telling me, that I have no choice, well, Mr. Big Stuff, you just have to wait — stay up late election night and see what I have done. *”*

    The era of entrenched political party power is OVER. The anger is not rage. The anger is determination. The future yet to be written.

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