Ex-Senator Qutub: Kitzhaber veto of anti-mail theft bill

John Kitzhaber veto of anti-mail theft bill showed his true colors
By Former State Senator Eileen Qutub

The experience of serving with John Kitzhaber as Oregon State governor was one of utter frustration. The man was one of the most stubborn people I have ever had the (dis)pleasure of working with.

Just one of the many examples is the Senate bill I sponsored (SB440) in the 1997 Legislative Session at the request of a Federal Postal Inspector. The bill basically made stealing mail a crime in Oregon. You might ask, is it not already a crime to steal mail? Well, yes, but it is a federal crime and local or state law enforcement cannot arrest someone or prosecute them for stealing mail, that has to be done by Federal authorities.

After hearing heart-wrenching testimony from individuals who had checks stolen from their mail boxes, and with local law enforcement’s endorsement of the measure, the committee passed the bill, the legislation went to both chambers and passed. Then it met with Kitzhaber’s (Dr. No) veto pen. No explanation except that word was he didn’t like the sponsor (me). Good reason don’t you think?

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  • Rupert in Springfield

    Oh my God this is so ridiculous.

    The point is Kitzhaber has experience and Dudley doesn’t.

    Kitzhaber has experience as governor of Oregon and we have experience with Kitzhaber.

    The fact that our experience with Kitzhaber was generally bad doesn’t matter, it is the fact that the experience on his part and ours exists is the reason to vote for him and why you are an idiot if you don’t.

    I mean I think thats how the liberal argument goes isn’t it? Vote for the guy because he has experience in driving the Oregon economy into the ground or at best making sure it underperformed for the last several decades.

    • No Lenin, just the truth

      ‘Experiencing’ more Kitzhaber will extend the Dem’s KGB (Kulongoski, Goldschmidt and Babs) ‘status quo’ (ante) bureau going another four years.

      OMG, that’s scary enough to send up a Mayday call urging voters to march out and spurn down the
      prevailing public employee paradigm Politburo – and, commemorate Nov 2 as MAKING STATES RIGHT AGAIN DAY.

  • Bob Clark

    I have met both candidates in person, and confirm from my own personal experience Dudley is a much more upbeat and positive cheer leader for the state whereas Kitzhaber is more of a Dr. No character. It’s kind of funny Obama talking of the GOP as the party of NO and then he comes out here to stump for a real Dr. No.

    Positive cheerleading adds to the freer economic philosphy Dudley brings as governor, and the thing the forecasting clowns in the Department of Revenue fail to recogonize is the dynamic elements of free market economies. Animal spirits, and imparting confidence, is a huge element in stimulating the state economy, and yet these state revenue forecasters ignore this and stick to their static models when estimating the “cost” of Dudley’s proposals.

  • valley p

    That’s it? He didn’t like you? Why does this sound like Newt whining about having to sit in the back of the plane? I expect there is another side to this story, but we won’t get it from Catalyst.

    Yes Bob, Dudley is an upbeat, cheerful guy. Much more so than Kitzhaber. Therefore, Dudley should be elected to run a multi billion dollar organization responsible for running prisons, caring for the envirnonment, delivering health services to poor people, taking care of roads and bridges, and educating our kids and adults. We need a nice, upbeat guy with zero experience for this job. The other guy is mean and doesn’t like ex Senator Qutub.

    One look at Dudley smiling and companies will flock to Oregon. This is so easy!. We will kick ourselves for not having thought of this sooner.

    And for Rupert. Driving the economy into the ground? That was your 1990s Oregon experience? Interesting. I thought times were pretty good.

    • “”

      Might invite Bob Tiernan (Oregon GOP Chair) to delineate what the wORebegone legislature did to line public serpent PERS’s in the 90’s and the hell hole the private sector has to pay into today.

    • Steve Plunk

      The point, valley p, is the former governor was a petty person willing to sacrifice good law making (rare in Oregon) to insult a political foe. If you would like to provide the other side of the story feel free but I tend to believe Senator Qutub.

      Kitzhaber governed as a tax and spend big government proponent. That sort of leadership is what put us into the mess we are in. Dudley may not be perfect but we should never make perfect the enemy of good. The choice is between leadership that has failed us in the past versus leadership with a positive, pro business message though lacking experience. To me it’s obvious Kitzhaber is a step backwards.

      • valley p

        I get her intended point Steve. Like I said, its one side of the story. I would expect Kizthaber may have a different side.

        Let me ask you this. What taxes did Kitzhaber raise on us? And What spending did he do in excess of what the Republican majority legislature, of which Ms Qutub was a prominent part, passed along for him to sign into law?

        I mean, if he governed as you say he did there must be some evidence of it. Taxes? Spending? Show me the money.

        Chris Dudley is not merely imperfect. He is a cipher. Neither you nor I nor anyone else has the first clue as to how he will govern if elected because he has no track record at having done anything other than play basketball, which he was pretty good at (I was a fan. Loved his hustle and grit, Winced at his free throws.)

        The choice is between a person who had a quite successful 2 terms as governor, was re-elected with well over 60% of the vote, governed during a time of the lowest unemployment in decades, got several of his own initiatives through a hostile legislature of the other party, and a person who has done nothing in either public or private life to indicate he has the first clue. You and others can rationalize your votes as a party line choice. As far as I’m concerned it is no contest.

    • Rupert in Springfield

      >And for Rupert. Driving the economy into the ground? That was your 1990s Oregon experience? Interesting. I thought times were pretty good.

      Of course you would – because Kitzhaber was governor, he is a Democrat, so you don’t look into it. All you look at is if the guy is a Democrat you support him.

      Fact is Oregon’s unemployment rate was above the national average during most of that time.

      The 90’s were also key years in screwing over the taxpayer with PERS. For the whole decade PERS used bad actuarial table that had not updated lifespan and thus pair mega bucks to greedy unions. These were also the years of allowing PERS employees to pull the stunt where they shared the upside of variable accounts, but got the guarantee of fixed accounts.

      But none of this matters to you – Kitzhaber has a D after his name and thats all you look at.

      Its why experience is such a crucial issue to you now when it had zero meaning with Obama.

      >governed during a time of the lowest unemployment in decades

      And succeeded in keeping Oregons unemployment rate higher than the national average most of the time.

      >was re-elected with well over 60% of the vote,

      So on that basis you are willing to say the Reagan was a great president?

      >got several of his own initiatives through a hostile legislature of the other party

      Among them Cim/Cam which have been total failures, as well as the Oregon Health plan which was supposed to insure all the poor people but is nothing more than a lottery system now.

      >and a person who has done nothing in either public or private life to indicate he has the first clue.

      As opposed to Kitzhaber who has stated for a fact he has no clue – “Oregon is ungovernable” and whose performance reinforces that fact.

      Get over it, you are only going on about experience because Kitzhaber is a Democrat and Dudley is a Republican. Were the roles reversed, Say if it was Obama vs. McCain you wold be saying exactly the opposite.

      Experience alone is no reason to vote for someone, when the experience with them was bad, and when that person has admitted it was bad as Kitzhaber has done, then it is reason to discount it or vote against them because of it.

      • valley p

        “Fact is Oregon’s unemployment rate was above the national average during most of that time. ”

        BFD. that does not make it a poor economy. The 90s after 92 were a boom period. oregon ran about 5% unemployment most of the decade. Given the huge influx of people migrating here, that was quite an accomplishment.

        “Its why experience is such a crucial issue to you now when it had zero meaning with Obama. ”

        Au contraire mon frare. Experience was important to me then as well, which is why I first supported Biden, then Hillary, and then Obama in that order. I did not say experience is the ONLY thing. However, Obama was a state senator and a US Senator. he wrote 2 books. He had a record in public life. Dudley has squat.

        “So on that basis you are willing to say the Reagan was a great president?”

        No. but I would be willing to say that if he came back from the dead and ran again he would have a decent record to run on, especially compared to today’s conservatives, who would have run him out of town for amnesty and raising taxes and failing to start any wars.

        “Experience alone is no reason to vote for someone”

        On that small point we agree. Ideology also matters. Just admit your rationale and don’t pretend Dudley is anything other than a blank slate.

  • Pinkie French

    Oregon = Greece if Kitz is elected again. Think about it folks….

  • Kingston

    You cannot compare Oregon to Greece, Oregon has set debt limits that are tighter than US and Europe.

  • Ricky

    I just love the Kitz. He is a real man with those tight jeans. He cares about me, too, which is more than I can say for anyone else.
    I will be voting for him at least twice.
    Ballot fraud is much easier in Oregon than it was in Texas, where I used to live. Much easier.
    All I do is get a PO box in another county, tell them I moved, and then I get two ballots!!
    All it takes is two stamps to vote twice in Oregon.
    They never check. Ever.
    I know because I have never been caught and have voted twice a lot.
    That way I can counter some idiot who most likely does not understand how great a man this guy is.

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