Sen. Prozanski’s bizarre bill to make it harder to get a CHL


by Dan Lucas

Sen. Floyd Prozanski (D-Eugene) has sponsored a strange bill to make it more difficult to obtain a concealed handgun license in Oregon. The bill, SB 796, had been expected to get a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing this coming Thursday or Friday in Salem1.

SB 796 requires that a person applying for a CHL pass a firing range test, but with some very strange twists. For example, Sen. Prozanski’s bill requires the use of human silhouette targets and it requires the use of high capacity magazines or speed loaders.

NRA B27 silhouette target required in SB796

NRA B27 silhouette target required in SB 796

Requirement for high capacity magazines or speed loaders

New York’s anti-gun Gov. Andrew Cuomo, in his State of the State speech back in January said “No one needs 10 bullets to kill a deer.” Apparently Sen. Prozanski didn’t get that memo. You may not need 10 bullets to kill a deer, but you’ll need 10 bullets to get a CHL in Sen. Prozanski’s bill.

The very detailed requirements in the bill spell out timed tests to demonstrate competence with a handgun. The timed tests will require that the applicant either have a high-capacity magazine of at least 10 rounds for semi-automatic pistols, or be proficient with a speed loader for revolvers. Why does Sen. Prozanski want to make sure that CHL holders can shoot lots of bullets quickly?

That may make sense for law enforcement who have a very different charge – to head into trouble, protect the public and stop or apprehend the bad guy. A CHL holder is just a citizen who now has additional self-protection options if they choose – who is not wearing a Kevlar vest and who will likely do everything possible to avoid trouble. Do we really want the law to be promoting CHL holders shooting lots of bullets quickly? There are very legitimate reasons for having high capacity magazines – they just shouldn’t be REQUIRED for someone to get a CHL.

Bill gets very specific – much more specific than driving test

In the most recent year that complete data is available (2009), there were:

  •  5 deaths caused by gun accidents  [unknown if any involved CHL holders]
  • 184 deaths caused by passenger vehicle accidents (car/pickup/van) *

* additionally, there were 104 deaths caused by unspecified vehicle accidents and 59 deaths caused by motorcycle accidents

I’m only comparing number of accidents to number of accidents, as I’m sure that SB 796 is intended to prevent accidents, not to improve the accuracy or speed of someone using a firearm to commit a homicide or suicide.

Despite an overwhelmingly higher number of driving accident deaths, Sen. Prozanski’s bill would provide far more detailed direction on the demonstrated competency portion of the CHL test than exists for the driving test.

Here is the part of state law prescribing the driving portion of a driver’s license test (ORS 807.070):

(3) A test that is an actual demonstration of the applicant’s ability to operate a motor vehicle without endangering the safety of persons or property. The following apply to this subsection:

(a) The actual demonstration for each class of license shall be performed in a vehicle that may be operated under the class of license sought

Now here’s the portion of Sen. Prozanski’s bill prescribing the firing range test:

(10) For the purposes of subsection (1)(f) of this section, in order to demonstrate competence with a handgun a person must:

(a) Receive a score of at least 70 percent on a firing range test, with a maximum of three attempts, using a National Rifle Association B27 or similar silhouette target and consisting of the following course of fire:

(A) 20 rounds fired from a distance of three yards, with:

(i) Five rounds fired one at a time with two seconds allowed for each shot;

(ii) 10 rounds fired two at a time with three seconds allowed for each two shots; and

(iii) Five rounds fired with 10 seconds allowed for all five shots;

(B) 20 rounds fired from a distance of seven yards, with:

(i) Five rounds fired with 10 seconds allowed for all five shots;

(ii) Five rounds fired with four seconds allowed for the first two shots and six seconds allowed for the remaining three shots;

(iii) Five rounds fired one at a time with three seconds allowed for each shot; and

(iv) Five rounds fired with 15 seconds allowed for all five shots; and

(C) 10 rounds fired from a distance of 15 yards, with:

(i) Five rounds fired with six seconds allowed for the first two shots and nine seconds allowed for the remaining three shots; and

(ii) Five shots fired with 15 seconds allowed for all five shots;

The state law for a driving test doesn’t specify parallel parking or really any specifics, but Sen. Prozanski’s bill defines the exact firing range test down to the exact target type, distances, number of rounds and even seconds per round.

Bill discriminates against women and other vulnerable Oregonians

This bill discriminates against some of Oregon’s most vulnerable citizens – people who are in most need of the ability to protect themselves. With provisions like requiring that a CHL applicant be able to fire 10 rounds within 15 seconds, this bill will necessitate someone having either a high-capacity magazine for a semi-automatic pistol, or be proficient with a speed loader for a revolver. Because my wife suffers from tendonitis, she sometimes prefers a revolver because it doesn’t require the hand strength to chamber a round. For this reason, and because it’s simpler to use and doesn’t require knowledge of how to clear a jam, etc., she often recommends revolvers for beginners, for some women and for those with certain physical challenges who are looking to obtain a handgun for self-defense, including for CHL carry.

Many vulnerable Oregonians have their revolvers for basic self-protection, not for competitive shooting, and so they may not be proficient with a speed loader. Why should they be penalized for just trying to protect themselves?


It doesn’t appear that this legislation was very well thought out. If there is a public safety problem that Sen. Prozanski has evidence of concerning Oregon’s 164,000 law-abiding CHL holders, who have all passed FBI background checks, then a better approach might be to work with those CHL holders and collaboratively develop solutions.

Sen. Prozanski has shown in the past that he is capable of working collaboratively with CHL holders. In the 2012 Oregon legislative session,  Sen. Prozanski was very supportive of the CHL privacy bill that passed, HB 4045.

1There are indications now that the gun bill hearings that were going to be Thursday and Friday (March 14-15, 2013) are now going to be postponed for a week or two.

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  • guest

    Guy’s gotta go south where he bongs. Wish’m well and his adjournment from here, the spor dear.

  • Burton Keeble

    Does Sen. Prozanski have a CHL? Just askin’.

  • DD

    I’d bet most police couldn’t pass that test.

  • A Free Citizen

    100 rounds fired per test. Ummm, if you use a 38 cal revolver at 6 rounds each that is 16.6 reloads. given the parameters of test you would need to purchase at least 4 reloaders to meet some of the requirements. Not to mention 100 rounds of 38 ammunition which currently is approx more that $50 per box of 50, and no mention of what the fee would be and where or who would supervise the tests.

    This is more of liberal political terrorism plain and simple. Well to hell with them and the Marxest horse the road in on.

  • A Free Citizen

    I know it’s “ they rode in on.”

  • A Free Citizen

    Yes, i know it is Marxist. That’s what claptrap does to you. Hard to write cogently when angry as hell!!!!!!!
    Have a great day and may you live them all in FREEDOM.

  • Christine Ruck

    Observation: Motorcycles may have been INVOLVED in the accidents were deaths occurred, as stated (or misstated), did the motorcycles CAUSE the deaths?
    Motorcycles don’t kill people. Just as guns don’t kill people.
    I ask not only to as someone who values my 2nd Amendment rights, but as a motorcyclist of 45 years experience, exercising my 1st Amendment rights to request the information presented be fact checked.

    • Editor

      “59 deaths caused by motorcycle accidents” – which says the deaths were caused by motorcycle accidents, not by motorcycles. In other words, the accident caused the death. The data doesn’t give the cause, only the circumstances. The exact wording in the state’s report, under the section “Unintentional injuries” (accidents) is: “fatalities occurred among persons traveling by…motorcycle (59)” The source is in the link “complete data is available” (State of Oregon – Oregon Health Authority – Public Health Division – Oregon Vital Statistics Annual Report 2009 Vol. 2)

  • mike

    This guy is obviously a fool!

  • Shooting Instructor

    The bill also fails to mention who is supposed to administer the shooting test. Therefore, I suppose some Sheriff could decree that all testing must be done by the Sheriff’s Dept and they will offer the test once a year. Also, I suppose the Sheriff could charge a fee to administer the test. I e-mailed the Senator about this, and never got a response.

  • Jason Schmidt

    I sent him a nice note about it. Ok, maybe it was not so nice 😉

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