A Problem Bigger Than PERS

CascadeNewLogoBy Doug DeFilipps

Education writer Betsy Hammond recently reported that, according to a study done by The Oregonian, in the 2013-2014 fiscal year the budget woes of most school districts will not come primarily from PERS, Oregon’s retirement system for its public employees. The teachers unions (among others) no doubt will celebrate this finding, but they should not.

What is important is not that the financial woes of most school districts are not caused only by PERS, but rather fixing what else is at fault. As Hammond writes, major expenditures include additional hiring, employee health care, and employee pay raises. So the problem is bigger than just PERS: Schools are running up debt and spending taxpayer money, not on greater classroom expenses, but on employees.

Oregon is a state that believes in investing in its children and their future, but that is not what is happening here. Money is being spent on the employees of the education system rather than on the education itself. Oregon’s parents and taxpayers should not put up with this; they should demand real change. They should demand that their tax dollars follow students to the schools of their choice and that school districts rein in their administrative and employee expenditures.

Doug DeFilipps is a research associate at Cascade Policy Institute. He is a recent graduate of Santa Clara University.

  • guest

    There were the days, m’ friend, good ol’ days when Portland public schools were ‘unorganized’ and unfazed by the politically correct infiltration and NEA’polediction.

    A teacher was his or her own bargaining agent and smaller percentages of administrators made budget problems much less an issue than current PERSonification and speciously progressive secular OEAistic agenda.

    Thank you, Doug Defilipps, for the commentary – and, Mary Hopkin for the catchy 22 abstract melody certain to stick in our heads at least for a smile…notwithstanding the ‘center staged’ malady’s pursuance for taxing encores.

    Mary Hopkin Those were the days – You Tube

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyaTIXdN5fI

    • Joanie

      One big room with all ages sitting with their hands folded calmly on their laps smiling and listening. A potbelly coal stove in the middle of the room and a kitten licking out of a bowl on the back porch. Damn those unions!

      • guest

        OEA-h, how you correspond, Ms Joanie Meforonly-Surmised.

      • guest

        Yet another d’oh bawl…

    • cecil91

      Twas bryllyg, and ye slythy toves

      Did gyre and gymble in ye wabe:

      All mimsy were ye borogoves;

      And ye mome raths outgrabe.

      • guest

        Awa an bile yer heid, Beastybaws!

  • ardbeg

    Great, fire everyone and hire back minimum wage workers with no benefits. That will help the economy. Better yet, privatize it. Keep the minimum wage thing and let the CEO make millions. Wait, wait I have it! don’t hire ‘full-time’ teachers and then we do not have to give those free loaders any benefits. Awesome!

    • guest

      Unfathomable drool aid foaming off the jaws of a left wing pit bull who’d rather Marx with with his persona fried drummer than keep America’s sovereignty and free bargaining system intact. What an act up overdose das scriptor so leers and appears.

  • NEPDX

    Labor intensive product so makes sense that labor costs would be significant. Biggest challenges to success in education today come from the environment surrounding the student. Family and community are weak elements and we asking the schools to make up for these deficiencies. What is the ratio of administrator to classroom instructor? Are administrator salaries excessive? Have audits of administrative positions been reported? Can districts be merged to reduce costs?

  • ardbeg

    Funny PERS is always argued while referencing teachers. Never police, firemen or other government workers. Why is that? does it have something to do with supporting political candidates Republicans don’t approve of?

    • Pirvate Not Lyin’

      Who gets to drink the COLA -AID and who are the indentured servants who cannot, Mr ardbed-bug?

      • ardbeg

        PPS starting salary 2010=$35,886

        PPS starting salary 2013=$35,886

        Frozen salary for 3 years. Do you see a COLA?

        Sometimes it’s better to keep your pie hole shut and ‘appear the fool’

        • guest

          Neal Simon would say you’re a pie-mon, and not one to sit on your morass and ponitificate your version of common sense, Mr.

          • ardbeg

            Why do I try to have a conversation with a fool. No point of view, no facts, no position. Just jiberish. Fool me once…….Buh-bye

          • guest

            Stay on farce with BlueOregon where you bong and take you left wing nuts with you.

            Buh-bye, indeed.

          • guest

            Ya sure, an’ ardbugger resounds like a beubetca foolAid drinkard patooie glob of whatever!

  • raven6

    To all com mentors

    Methinks the whipping left and right is but an attempt to either deny or not be aware of the fact Oregon has ( through the Majority party ) placed UNESCO education k-12. Democrats committed the crime, Republicans omitted same, as usual. This small bit of information I present for both illiterate on the left and right.

    Oregon Education Chief Could Use Education On Education

    In speaking to Grant High students in early May, Rudy Crew, spoke correctly to the need for students to man up, or woman up as the case may be. He is correct that the students should reach for a higher plane in the educational process, for their own well being and hire ability.

    The challenge that he must face is actually providing an education that enhances the value of the student, and from inspection, that is quite frankly suspect. It is to be questioned whether Mr. Crew was involved in the Governor instituting United Nations Education, Scientific and Cultural Organization in Oregon K-12 education. UNESCO for short. Let me expand on this for a moment.

    In the beginning of 1945-6, a Mrs. Jugolova, a Russian from the Soviet Ministry of Education was head of the Secondary Education Department of UNESCO. Alger Hiss, and Harry Dexter White, were the principle architects of educating through UNESCO. In 1936, Communist party leader Earl Browder, speaking before the
    “Ninth National Convention of the Communist Party” in the United States, declared that:
    ( Who wins the youth, wins the future of America).

    Hmmmm.

    another to whet the appetite: ( Education should aim at destroying free will. ) Hitler

    Geeee

    Oh, Lenin said: Give us the child for 8 years, and ( it ) not he or she will be a Bolshevik forever.

    On a more humorous note, on April 18, 1955 Congressman Lawrence H. Smith of Wisconsin called UNESCO a

    ” Permanent International Snake Pit ” along with a few other descriptive adjectives. This noted in the “Congressional Record”.

    Moving more to the present, The United States left the UNESCO portion of the United Nations programs in 1985 after former Communist Intelligence agent Ladislav Bittman noted that UNESCO had become an aggressive political institution, attacking western principles.

    In 2003 the United States re-established connection with UNESCO, while it was noted that ( NO )( NADA ) reforms had been instituted to remove communist bias. Both political strains are incompetent to provide a solid American Foundational education. An excellent article on teachers resigning because of no educational values left
    are more common than ever.

    Ahhhh, but we here ignore the obvious and fight like court Jesters
    in a comedy of dueling idiot savants.

    It matters not, what a program is called, when the ill defined Progressive ( aka ) regressive Governor brings the education
    of our children under his control, and the educational material is patently corrupt, it should be reviewed with great suspicion. One would think, that Mr. Crew might ponder what the children are learning, and pick up on the necessity of the other two thirds being valid as he spoke: the children are one third of the equation. Unless
    we recognize that we are going to rue the missing other two thirds, we will continue down this black hole we are currently in. I certainly welcome the conversation.

    • guest

      Thank you.

      • raven6

        The pleasure is mine, wonder where Ardbeg is.

        • guest

          Perhaps ardbed and Cecil91 are looking to have a ‘joint’ council with 3H under the ol’ Appell tree, catered to by BlueOregon – and Soros to say, MoveOn.cyborg

  • JacklordGod

    The four biggest government expenses for the average taxpayer are: Defense, Schools, Medicare and SS. The left goes apoplectic when people question where the hell the money is going in all but the first. That’s lunacy.

    • ardbeg

      Again, another wrong assumption. It has nothing to do with left or right. Here is a link (ED.) that will tell you state by state how much money they get and what programs it supports. I’m sure there are similar for SS and Medicare. The issue with Defense is all the unaccounted for $$ and all the no-bid contracts. How has Halliburton and Blackwater spent the billions they have gotten from me (taxpayers)? How many millionaires and billionaires have my tax dollars created? Oh, buy the way Mr. Prince is worth 2.5 BILLION and lives in Abu Dhabi.

      https://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/budget/statetables/14stbystate.pdf

      • raven6

        Ardbeg
        JLG was speaking to Federal as expenses. Also, based on economic results per dollar spent, it does depend on left and right. Commmunism beccomes the lowest common denominator in a Democratic Government, while, idologically impossible in a Republic. We in America have gone from quite high in educational merits
        to something like 28th. Collectivist responsibility, goes to the weakest link. My prior post to you, should assit you in grasping the obvious. The majority party in this state,
        has ignored valid Constitutional checks and balances, and more.

        • ardbeg

          Not sure how your reply relates to my comment to rupert-sorry, I just can’t bring myself to call him Lord God. That’s a little creepy, calling ones self Lord God, don’t you think? You are thinking of this from a different point of view-Commies, liberals, leftist…. I was just pointing out to Rupert that it’s not a “The left goes apoplectic when people question where the hell the money is going in all but the first. That’s lunacy.” I question where MY money is going in all of the areas mentioned. I just have no answers when it comes to the defense budget and I don’t like individuals getting rich off my hard work. Does that make me a commie/liberal/leftist? Oh, well.

          • guest

            Argbegger, you are what you fart and that’s an asshole-tainable toot, you left wing galooot spreador. .

          • raven6

            Quite appropriate to question where the money goes. What my comments were intended to suggest, not that you might be whatever, but that when one scrutinizes the value of the dollar you or I put in the taxman’s pocket, ones buys the fish, the other wants to buy the pole.
            Controller types buy fish, individualistic buy the pole. I leave it to you to discern the difference.

            Today’s administration is buying fish by the truckload and will continue until the lowest common denominator is reached. The foolish
            will descend right to the bottom. The current administration knows the fish will run out, and chaos will be the result. As a retired military
            analyst, my advise, prepare for the landing.
            The earlier comment I wrote will explain the pattern, as well as the fact the United Nations
            has been using our good will against us for years.

          • guest

            Bravo! Would strongly support raven6 dispelling the juvenile starlings occupying Oregon’s Mahonia Hall since ’88.

            http://www.freerepublic.com/~raven6/

            He might even electrify the Dem majority of legislators into getting off their bums and charge PERS back into something positive like what the private sector empowers…so doing without any (inflationary catalyst) electrolyte COLA.

  • Karen

    I am a teacher and I am underpaid and overworked, so I don’t see how articles like this will help any. Maybe people don’t know that I am a professional with hundreds of hours of hard study to learn how to do what I do. I get to work at 7:30 AM and start working with students by 8:45. Then I only have one prep period for 52 minutes and one lunch of only 33 minutes. Then I work again with students all the way to 3:00 PM. By the time I get home at 3:45 I am exhausted. And all this for over 175 days of the year! You try it if you think it is easy. And I only make 63,000 per year (plus some benefits).
    No wonder teachers are leaving the profession. Everyone is beating up on us for wanting a living wage when we retire after working for 30 years!!

    • guest

      How about your stooldents blinging a David Appell to you every day and while you have the summer off, lard-in-bed with 3H or get smokin’ haute with cecil91 with plenty of stash from his PERS?

    • raven6

      Karen

      Well, articles like this help for a myrid of reasons. Most understand you are what you are ( professional ). You are correct that the tasking is a bit complicating and mentally stressing.

      All that being said, what you do not know being coddled and used like a prostitute by the unions is this.

      Many, I repeat many, people work 60 – 80 hours a week, some at night shifts, with no amenities, for 261 days a year and more. Many people who own businesses, commonly make less. Example- A supervisor of personnel in the Demolition field goes to work at 07:00 hours, works in a dangerous, dirty labor environment, !/2 hour lunch with no morning break, gets off at 3:30-4:00, with no retirement, and his salary with schooling in many fields is about $35,000.00. One could go on, but it is a waste.

      The real challenge is the educational program could be taught by a person with a two year degree, and ever since the MAjority party started the DOE, the countries scores have plummeted. A large part of that is because highly educated teachers actually know less about the real world than most. The evidence is in the results. If you really want to accomplish some thing other than whining, read the attached slowly, gather up your overies and tell Kitzhaber to get rid of UNESCO education. Many college graduates today could not answer questions on an 8th grade test written in about 1910.

      Read attached:Methinks the whipping left and right is but an attempt to either deny or not be aware of the fact Oregon has ( through the Majority party ) placed UNESCO education k-12. Democrats committed the crime, Republicans omitted same, as usual. This small bit of information I present for both illiterate on the left and right.

      Oregon Education Chief Could Use Education On Education

      In speaking to Grant High students in early May, Rudy Crew, spoke correctly to the need for students to man up, or woman up as the case may be. He is correct that the students should reach for a higher plane in the educational process, for their own well being and hire ability.

      The challenge that he must face is actually providing an education that enhances the value of the student, and from inspection, that is quite frankly suspect. It is to be questioned whether Mr. Crew was involved in the Governor instituting United Nations Education, Scientific and Cultural Organization in Oregon K-12 education. UNESCO for short. Let me expand on this for a moment.

      In the beginning of 1945-6, a Mrs. Jugolova, a Russian from the Soviet Ministry of Education was head of the Secondary Education Department of UNESCO. Alger Hiss, and Harry Dexter White, were the principle architects of educating through UNESCO. In 1936, Communist party leader Earl Browder, speaking before the
      “Ninth National Convention of the Communist Party” in the United States, declared that:
      ( Who wins the youth, wins the future of America).

      Hmmmm.

      another to whet the appetite: ( Education should aim at destroying free will. ) Hitler

      Geeee

      Oh, Lenin said: Give us the child for 8 years, and ( it ) not he or she will be a Bolshevik forever.

      On a more humorous note, on April 18, 1955 Congressman Lawrence H. Smith of Wisconsin called UNESCO a

      ” Permanent International Snake Pit ” along with a few other descriptive adjectives. This noted in the “Congressional Record”.

      Moving more to the present, The United States left the UNESCO portion of the United Nations programs in 1985 after former Communist Intelligence agent Ladislav Bittman noted that UNESCO had become an aggressive political institution, attacking western principles.

      In 2003 the United States re-established connection with UNESCO, while it was noted that ( NO )( NADA ) reforms had been instituted to remove communist bias. Both political strains are incompetent to provide a solid American Foundational education. An excellent article on teachers resigning because of no educational values left
      are more common than ever.

      Ahhhh, but we here ignore the obvious and fight like court Jesters
      in a comedy of dueling idiot savants.

      It matters not, what a program is called, when the ill defined Progressive ( aka ) regressive Governor brings the education
      of our children under his control, and the educational material is patently corrupt, it should be reviewed with great suspicion. One would think, that Mr. Crew might ponder what the children are learning, and pick up on the necessity of the other two thirds being valid as he spoke: the children are one third of the equation. Unless
      we recognize that we are going to rue the missing other two thirds, we will continue down this black hole we are currently in. I certainly welcome the conversation.

      Quit being part of the problem, and become part of the solution. Get another job.

  • guest

    Stop the sucking now! Privatize PERS and be dung with whatever else the SEIU manifests.

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