Dem’s anti-coal bill: $190 a year electric bill increase

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Oregon Senate Republicans

Salem, Ore. – Senate Republicans issued the following statement following the signing of SB 1547, an expensive new renewable energy mandate, by Governor Kate Brown in Portland yesterday:

“Governor Brown gave her stamp of approval to a new renewable energy mandate that will cost residential electricity customers in Oregon $190 more each year until 2040,” said Senate Republican Leader Ted Ferrioli (R-John Day).

“The catch: this so-called ‘Coal to Clean’ plan will not reduce carbon emissions in Oregon. Oregon families cannot afford more expensive utility bills. This mandate lines the pockets of the green energy industry at the expense of working Oregonians who get nothing in return. We asked Governor Brown to wait until next year when we could craft a plan that reduces emissions and protects ratepayers, but today she showed us where her loyalties lie.”

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  • Bob Clark

    Symptomatic of the cancerous grip the “green” carpet bagging, profiteering industry has over state government and local government. Those receiving the “green” taxpayer, ratepayer and other favors from government are donors to those politicians handing out the lucrative (think BETC) favors. An economic rent taking model favored by the likes of Mayoral candidate Bailey in Portland (He’s also had his hand in this till on the sides). Marxism is founded on the very faulty premise the government is benevolent when in fact it is often allowed to be very exploitative; something that tends to be more so the larger the government share of the economy. Could be a tautology on the latter.’

    • Connie Kosuda

      upside down and backwards, as per usual.

      • Roger Enout

        D’oh ewe emboldened fleece bleating for your mama’s teats long after her well has done dry. Wake up and try making some common sense in lieu of drawling wool over common sense surmise.

  • Dave Lister

    This is exactly the type of information we need to get out in a big way prior to the next state rep and senate races. A massive, public education program showing just how much Democratic party elitism and arrogance has raised the cost of everything on all Oregonians. Their overreach will ensure they are out of power for many years to come.

    And every image associated with this effort should include the smug face of Tina Kotek. That will cinch the deal.

    • Connie Kosuda

      are there any costs, in your “world” associated with lung disease, other diseases associated with pollutants, toxins, etc., in our air? what about soil? water? foods produced by corporations? let’s hear it from u farmers out there!

      • David Clark

        Connie, which of those are caused by coal power plants in the USA. Please show us credible (no greenie rants) sources.

        • Connie Kosuda

          david clark? the same as david lister/ bob clark / troll? if you don’t know the damage coal power plants cause, I would say, that is the problem , and thanks for admitting it.

          • Dave Lister

            Actually, Connie, I am Dave Lister. Bob David are other real people. We are older, with more life experience I would suspect, in that you exhibit a great post 1980’s public education.

          • Connie Kosuda

            ignorance must be bliss all round, eh , “dave”?

            your sort I pray I never am.

          • Dave Lister

            I wouldn’t know about ignorance. Maybe you could inform me, since you abound with it.

          • Connie Kosuda

            you are the embodiment of it / look within.

          • Roger Enout

            Connie Kosuda, ilk a canard leaping bento wedging froth her assets as a Number One piss ant, to wit even Numberer Too, a pseudo synch nymph for Commie Kama Sutra positioning her relativity into an oral office where Slick Wiley Clinton can lift skirts even higher than Monique Hullabooinski.

        • Eric Blair
          • David Clark

            Now tell us which of those alleged pollutants are emitted in significant quantities. For instance most mercury emissions DO NOT come from USA coal plants.
            I also notice one of them is promoting Al Gore’s climate scam.

          • Eric Blair

            I’ve done enough of your research for one day. If you’re curious, feel free to do it on your own. I’m also not big on spitting into the wind. I suspect no matter what I find, you’ll find a way to redirect the discussion.

          • David Clark

            You are just another liberal that relies on propaganda, instead of real data to support his position.

          • Eric Blair

            Please explain what you mean by real data? You think the EPA and the American Lung Association is propaganda? How so? Or does just saying it make it so? What real facts do you have?

            And like too many conservatives, you hypocritically expect others to do what you won’t.

          • David Clark

            Eric Blair — Please explain what you mean by real data?

            ME — Did you happen to notice that you pointed to a laundry list of scary substances with absolutely no statements as to which were harmful in the quantities emitted. And no perspective as to how much contributed to the total emissions. For instance we know that nature emits more Mercury than man, like nature emits 95% of the CO2 and man only emits 5%. That makes it propaganda.Like too many liberals you are scared to death by harmless quantities of slightly harmful substances.

          • Eric Blair

            I expect you to move the goalposts again… because it is easier to do that and then act all snarky when the first question you asked was answered.

            but…https://ala1-old.pub30.convio.net/assets/documents/healthy-air/toxic-air-report.pdf

          • Eric Blair

            Actually, in researching your comment about Mercury, I’ve read that nature emits around 10% of the Mercury, Human activity 30% and the other 60% is re-emitted mercury which comes from both human and natural sources. However, if you care to present other data… I’ll be happy to listen.

          • MrBill

            SB 1547 goes quite a ways beyond what the ALA was pushing for and what the EPA is currently mandating. They call for cleaning up coal fired plants not eliminating them altogether. Ted Ferrioli is right. This is an extreme bill.

      • MrBill

        Thst’s a good question. How many lives are lost due to the pollution produced by coal plants versus how many lives are saved by the electricity they produce? I don’t know what those numbers might be, but I’m willing to bet even the dirtiest coal plant saves more lives than it costs.

        • Connie Kosuda

          well, I find that an unacceptable risk , as you would if it were YOUR life in danger / or your families’, without adequate health care and resources. the numbers would help, but none of us are in a position to pick and choose who gets to live and who gets to die, right?

          • MrBill

            Risks are always unacceptable when you get nailed as a result of taking a risk. But we take them anyway. Sometimes gladly. A coal plant poses no more risk than driving 55 mph rather than 10 mph.

          • Connie Kosuda

            ‘nailed’ ? how about the personal liability and culpability that is part of risking the life / well-being of another / corporations as ‘people’? put them in jail.

          • MrBill

            It depends on how far you want to take that. Almost everything we do results in some level of risk to ourselves and/or those around us. But if you want to never, ever do anything that puts anyone else at risk for anything, you’d never leave your house.

          • Connie Kosuda

            bill – your logic is faulty and you know it / pray for guidance.

          • MrBill

            I’m just saying we take risks all the time and that there is such a thing as an acceptable risk. And that whatever health risks that are posed by burning coal are acceptable when weighed against the benefits.

            That being said, don’t think I’m not in favor of controls on coal plant emissions. A number of plants already have emission controls. No reason why they can’t all have controls.

          • Eric Blair

            LOL! Are you sure about that? F=MA

          • MrBill

            I’m pretty sure driving 10 mph is indeed safer than 55 unless it’s an ambulance taking you to the hospital. Then you just might want them to take a chance and drive a little faster.

          • MrBill

            I guess you could research the number of traffic fatalities where the driver was going 55 mph or higher versus the number of people who died from toxins released by a coal plant. E=mc2

          • Eric Blair

            ?? ummm.. OK.

          • Gene Willikers

            Move on aback dotty Kosuda, gushing girl, to your genie-logical surrounds where snow job monkey’s shine bathing, au natural, in haute waters soaking in their spaws while doffing off at Toyota Mounting Alarmo.

          • Connie Kosuda

            lay off the booze, yes?

          • Gene Willikers

            You’re so wasted Commie Kosuda! If only you were as gracious as Nini Kuramoto Graham @ Osa Kaya presented herself 24/7 in lieu of what you manifest yourself, to wit.

          • Connie Kosuda

            who actually are the trolls who post here for the rabid right wings? huh?

          • Gene Willikers

            Your belfry is so full of bats, MLB considers them superfluous save for guano fields outstanding in deranged forests of DNC saplings.

          • Connie Kosuda

            nothing on point / nothing substantive / just pure drivel / right wing site,

        • Eric Blair

          I just might take you up on that bet.

          • MrBill

            Maybe you should research it. But before you do, consider how many lives are saved by:
            -water treatment
            -public water systems (for potable water and fire suppression)
            -wastewater treatment
            -hospitals
            -police
            -heat
            -refrigeration

            I could go on.

            Thats not to say we shouldn’t clean up dirty coal plants. We’ve done that successfully with municipal and medical incinerators. It’s already been done with a lot of coal plants. No reason you can’t do it with all. And there’s no reason to shut them all down.

          • 3H

            Your list would be a little more potent if coal burning electrical plants were our only choice. As for coal plants being cleaner…. that is true. It doesn’t mean that they’re still good.

          • MrBill

            Energy comes from lots of sources and they all have their merits and drawbacks. I’m just saying that, on balance, the benefits of coal outweigh the negatives.

            I think we’re all better off if we let alternative energy sources duke it out in the market rather than try to pick winners and losers. No need for the gov’t to step in and do that.

    • Puson University Dem Wits

      Correction: Democratic or Democrat party elitism. Folks, there’s nothing “Democratic” about the Democrat Party’s ‘nihilism’ – rather, it’s about a party of animals housed in fraternal odors where stinky fingers spread the allure d’s and poke into other peoples money like it’s theirs to be stacked for their shelf gratification.

  • Myke

    Oh well, just have to fire up the wood stove and let it rip.

  • bifford

    Knute and other House Republicans voted for it!

  • Dick Winningstad

    Until the anti-coal advocates start demanding nuclear power to replace the lost energy from coal then it is logical to dismiss their claims. Same thing for their efforts to shut down the hydro-power generation. Alternative energy just will not produce enough power to replace coal or removed dams.

  • Oregon Export Watch

    This is a laughable headline given that four House Republicans voted in favor of it! Good luck laying the coming massive electricity rate increases at the Democrats feet during the campaigns as they will point out that the vote was ‘bipartisan’. It’s no wonder that Oregon legislative Republicans were the only state to lose seats in the 2014 Republican wave when they jump in bed with the Dems on these issues, like Cover Oregon, CCO’s, Medicaid expansion, the CRC, convention center hotel and on and on and on… Apparently they are tone deaf to why Trump is so popular!

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