Weekly Legislative Update for Citizen Lobbyists (Update)

by Salem 9-12 Project

UPDATE (6/7/2011)

Amended Legislative Update for this week. Please note the large number of important bills being discussed in committee meetings on Wednesday of this week.

Everything from

–creating new taxes on bird food
–changing inheritance taxes
–Tax exemptions
–assistance for low income electric users
–ethnic aesthetic care
–higher education
–Oregon Health authority
–child welfare
–federal grant applications
–and MORE….

click here to see the current Legislative Update

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The Legislative update this week is a short update for several reasons. First, many of the committee meetings have been discontinued as the Legislative session is coming to a close.  Second, the state web site appears to not have been updated Friday to list the meetings and floor sessions for the coming week.  Consequently, we have completed the update for the committee meetings we are aware of at this time.

There are several important bills this week covering different topics, including:

  • Emergency medical service providers
  • Bottle refund programs for distributors
  • Possession of illegal substances
  • And others…

click here to see this week’s full Legislative Update

 

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  • Sam

    You can’t expect the state website to be up to date. These people are hard at work and cannot figure out how to do it.
    However, they deserve their salaries and PERS and healthcare, as they really, really work hard.

    • 3H

      They work just as hard as anyone else Sam.  A shocker, I know.

      • Beep Beep

        Close enough for government work…leaving before the time clock ticks off the private sector gets lined up at five minutes before quit’n time.

        Ja vol SEIU, AFSCME and OEA sinisters!  Das is the hAmerikan sway…swig heil!

        • 3H

          Really?   I’m not sure what you’re trying to say.  I don’t even think you know what you’re saying.   

          Are you trying to argue that governmental workers are less likely to work a full day than private sector works?  Do you have any evidence of that?  Or do you prefer the Walmart model of being required to work off the clock?

          • Beep Beep

            You appear as wrapped up in yourself as had Cleopatra snugged herself in a rug before Sleezer Augustus Public Employee PERSimonious. 

          • Beep Beep

            You appear as wrapped up in yourself as had Cleopatra snugged herself in a rug before Sleezer Augustus Public Employee PERSimonious. 

          • 3H

            Yes, I didn’t think you had any facts to back up your comment.  Pretty par for the course, isn’t it?

            Or, are you gonna go out on a limb and argue that having PERS makes public employees lazy?

            Give coherence a try – you might actually enjoy it.

          • Beep Beep

            Clockadoodle do, 3H, public employees are out the door before private sector types can begin lining up at the the time clock 5 minutes early. 

          • 3H

            Really?  Which ones?   All of them?  How do you know this?  Care to cite any evidence?  Oh, wait, you don’t do evidence.  My bad.

          • Beep Beep

            Your bad is sad, particularly if you’re the first one out the door, unaware of the example you’re setting.     

          • 3H

            ??  LOL.. that makes no sense at all.  Not that I’m surprised.  Someone has to be the first out of the door  Unless it’s a really wide door and people can go out 2 or 3 at a time.  

          • Rupert in Springfield

            >Oh, wait, you don’t do evidence.  My bad.

            Actually your bad is you have no evidence state workers work as hard as everyone else when most peoples experience is they do not. When you look at the evidence, such as what I listed above, it tends to prove it.

            Lets face it, in most peoples experience the go getters they went to high school or college with weren’t the ones jumping for the public employee hirings upon graduation. When they get the door slammed in their face promptly at 4.55PM when they show up at the building permit department for a permit, their suspicions are confirmed.

            Some public employees work hard, sure. However by and large most really are not noted for their self starter strong work ethic attitudes.

          • valley person

            And you have no evidence to claim otherwise. For one, you have no idea what “most people’s experience” is. For another, you have no idea what the talent pool is that applies to public jobs. My personal experience is that in some professional fields where pay is comparable, the talent within agencies is as good or better than in the private sector. In areas where private sector pay is way higher, like engineering, medicine, and law, I imagine public sector talent may be below average.

            Beleive it or not, many “go-getters” actually wanted to have careers as park rangers, field biologists, professors, teachers, fire fighters, soldiers, and cops. West Point has some of the best and brightest Americans.

          • 3H

            I operate off of this strange assumption – public employees are like everybody else.  Strange, huh?   That the proportion of hard working people is exactly the same as it is in private industry.   That for the most part they take pride in their work, and they work hard at their job.  Yes there are some that are lazy – just as there are in the private sector.  But – that the the proportions are no different between the two populations.  I don’t have proof of this – i just operate off the assumption that public employees are just like everyone else out there who hold down a job working for someone else.   If you can prove to me that this is not true, then I’ll be happy to rethink my assumption.  However, until then, I’m going to believe that your contention that public employees don’t work as hard as workers in private industry is governed more by your political ideology than it is by an objective evidence.  Any by evidence, I mean real statistical evidence. Not anecdotal evidence, because for every story you give me of a “lazy” public employee, I’ll come back with one about a “lazy” private sector employee.

            LOL..   actually the go-getters do become public employees.  Frequently they work hard to become heads of their departments.  You don’t think that go-getters (and can we at least acknowledge that the term is so nebulous as to be nearly useless?) want to become firemen, policemen, social workers or librarians?  Definitions aside, wouldn’t you say that your average public employee is just as driven as people who work as administrative assistants, secretaries, plumbers, and roofers (list is not exhaustive by any means) who work in private industry?   What, at the end of the day, is the difference in the motivations between a person who works as a secretary for 30 years in a private firm and the person who works as a secretary for 30 years for a governmental office?  Would you make the claim that the private industry secretary is a go-getter and the secretary who is a public employee is not?
              

            LOL – have you really reduced your thinking to such a simplistic dichotomy?:  Public employees = not a go-getter; Private industry employee = go-getter.  

            “Some public employees work hard, sure. However by and large most really are not noted for their self starter strong work ethic attitudes.”

            Really?  How do you know this?  Noted by whom?  You?  I don’t think I’m going to find that very convincing.

            “Actually your bad is you have no evidence state workers work as hard as everyone else when most peoples experience is they do not.”

            I assume, then, that you have evidence of what most people’s experience is?  Have you spent a great deal of time canvassing most people’s experience with public employees?  Or is it just more empty rhetoric on your part? 

          • Beep Beep

            PERSonal experience:  Related to a person in the public sector (DHS) who was instructed by peers to slow down so as to not ’embarrass’ others in the same job description.  Was also told to not volunteer self, let alone others in other departments during slack tides of departmental activity.

            Today, all receiving COLA’s, retired or otherwise, albeit NOT based in common sense with what attends the private sector.

            Selah.          

          • 3H

            LOL.. and that’s it right?  One story.  You have real evidence?  Or is it all anecdotal.

            You are aware that over the past couple of years, state employees had to take work furloughs, right?

            You also realize that public employees are just regular people like everyone else?  Yes?   Maybe you don’t want to… doesn’t fit your stream of consciousness points.

          • 3H

            “When you look at the evidence, such as what I listed above, it tends to prove it.”
            I meant to ask..   what evidence did you list above?  I don’t see any posts by you above this one.

      • Rupert in Springfield

        And also untrue. Public employees in Oregon contribute nothing towards their own retirement, most private sector workers do. Public sector employees also tend to retire a lot earlier as well. Oh, and when they do? Their PERS benefits aren’t subject to taxation.

        So no, they don’t work as hard as the rest of us.

        A shocker, but sadly, quite true.

        • 3H

          When they work, they work just as hard as everyone else.   If you can be believed (and I don’t necessarily), they may retire earlier.   That, however, is not the same thing as working hard.  Try again.

          I didn’t say anything about who contributes to PERS – so my statement couldn’t be untrue since I didn’t make it.  Yet another of your frequent straw man fallacies.  Concentrate on what I say, not on what you wish I had said. In fact, I asked three questions and didn’t make any statements.  Please read more carefully.

        • valley person

          Wrong again dear Rupert. You make a weird habit of being cocksure about what you don’t know. Tier 1 PERs employees may have contributed little directly to their retirement, but they agreed to lower wages in exchange for their employers paying more. Tier 2 and 3 public employees do contribute to their retirement, including to 401Ks. And a lot of public employees have less than permanent status, and get no retirement benefits at all. 

          This is also true of federal employees by the way.

          • 3H

            I was going to go into a discussion of the difference between various Tier PERS plans.  But decided that actually introducing complexity into a world that craves absurd simplicity (PERS BAD!  PUBLIC EMPLOYEES LAZY!  LAZY BECAUSE THEY GET PERS!) was spitting into the wind.  The only way some on this blog would be happy is if all public employees were mendicants.  And then they would be complaining because they could still afford rags.

          • conservatively speaking

            3H, “There’s nothing wrong with being shallow as long as you’re insightful about it.”

            ~ Dennis Miller

          • 3H

            If you work hard, you can become insightful too.

          • Beep Beep

            Indeed, by keeping the oars going on both sides, not to port like 3H’s

  • Demandprogress

    For all the lobbyists, a national issue that needs to be addressed:

    PROTECT IP Act, or PIPA, threatens all of our first amendment rights. It would enable the government to block access to sites, ending the Internet as we know it. Senator Ron Wyden of Oregon cautions, “The collateral damage of this approach is speech, innovation and the very integrity of the Internet.” We need to fight together against this travesty: send our letter to Congress here! https://act.demandprogress.org/act/pipa_letter/?source=tfEven the experts say PROTECT IP is not the way to protect intellectual property rights; a study composed by internet experts including Paul Vixie of Internet Consortium and Danny McPherson of Verisign states, “[PIPA’s DNS targeting strategy] would likely prove ineffective at reducing online infringement.” Why risk our own internet freedom for a bill that will prove “ineffective” at achieving its aims?The Motion Picture Association of America claims that the 24,000 who have already sent our letter to Congress are false identities used by Demand Progress to bolster our numbers.Prove the MPAA wrong and stand up for your rights by sending out this letter: https://act.demandprogress.org/act/pipa_letter/?source=tf

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